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Date:      Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:28:25 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Joao Carlos Mendes Luis <jonny@coppe.ufrj.br>
Cc:        julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer), mike@smith.net.au, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: devfs persistance 
Message-ID:  <7804.887448505@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:35 -0200." <199802140436.CAA01747@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> 

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In message <199802140436.CAA01747@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br>, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis 
writes:
>Some questions about DEVFS.   (Shouldn't this go to freebsd-hackers ?)
>
>1) What will be the impact on hand-created devices ?  Will still be possible
>   to simply mknod some file on some dir and use it ?  I don't like the
>   ideia of having to use DEVFS on chrooted environments.  In such
>   environments not all devices should be seen, and the permissions
>   could be even different from the defaults.

No, you cannot hand-create devices anymore.  Chroot will be dealt with
some way, yet to be agreed on.  I share your desire about chrooted
environment.s

>2) What's the practical meaning of "turning DEVFS default" ?

A lot of gunk like /etc/MAKEDEVS become unneeded.

>3) Will DEVFS in any sense make major numbers random ?  if so, my #1
>   question is already answered.  Not to hardcode device number is
>   good, but letting the kernel choose them on the fly is not good.
>   I like, for example, the Solaris' /etc/name_to_major approach.

Better yet, it eventually will make them go away.

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
"Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!"

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