Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:58:17 -0400 From: "Tamir Halperin" <tamir@brobus.net> To: "Ruben de Groot" <fbsd-q@bzerk.org>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: zero sendmail Message-ID: <985DF46E87E0C047A3670048DBCAD055086905@andrew.brobus.net>
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Ruben, Please accept my apologies for belaboring a point already heavily discussed. In my case, I believe I'm asking a question that has not been articulated very well, at least not to the satisfaction of someone at my (low) level of experience. I'm actually interested in a "zero" sendmail footprint. I have searched the archives for days and have, indeed, found many emails that pertain to the general issues of dealing with a sendmail-less freebsd installation as well as others that deal with working around sendmail. But I still believe I'm asking for information on something I have yet to uncover in the archives. I have not yet found an archived email that describes how to entirely remove sendmail from the system so that nothing of sendmail remains. Any pointers to archived emails I may have overlooked would be greatly appreciated. An additional note is my suggestion on how general MTA functionality might be handled. I was sincerely hoping that this maillist might be a forum for such a discussion. If I'm wrong, please accept my apology again. Very sincerely, Tamir "How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it." MARCUS AURELIUS 121 - 180 -----Original Message----- From: Ruben de Groot [mailto:fbsd-q@bzerk.org] Sent: Mon 8/19/02 5:23 PM To: Tamir Halperin Cc: Subject: Re: zero sendmail This issue has been discussed over and over in the past. Just read the mailing list archieves, it keeps coming back every few weeks. Since you don't bring in new arguments, give it a rest. Greetings, Ruben On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 04:37:21PM -0400, Tamir Halperin typed: > There are many conversations about how to deal with sendmail in freebsd. I would love a definitive answer to how sendmail can be entirely removed from the system. Even not electing it as part of the system during configuration and installation still causes it to show up and, if I'm not mistaken, show up configured and running. The scenario I'm looking for is a set of steps to actually "remove" it from the system once the system is finally installed and configured. > > There have also been some conversations about sendmail being UNIX's default MTA and other MTA's being configured around sendmail's configuration and commands for running it. As someone new to UNIX, this sounds like an issue that should probably be addressed IMHO. I'm not complaining about this but it does seem to sound as though FreeBSD and other Unices are almost prefering sendmail over others. Is it the case that UNIX doesn't run properly without an installed and configured MTA? Again, I'm asking because I don't know. > > My suggestion would be that FreeBSD have a standards-based facility for handling MTA functionality that an installer can configure or elect not to configure at the time of installation. Often times, a decision about which MTA to use requires quite a bit more deliberation than can be demanded of the OS installation procedure. The choice should be given to delay until such time as the deliberating parties can attend to the decisioning process. > > What say you? > > Tamir > --- > Valeris: "Why keep it in your quarters?" > Spock: "It is a reminder to me that all things end." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the messagehelp
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