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Date:      Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:51:34 -0800
From:      "Garrett Cooper" <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
To:        "Robert Noland" <rnoland@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Artem Belevich <fbsdlist@src.cx>
Subject:   Re: i give up
Message-ID:  <7d6fde3d0812040151t77ca6200n5aa5a644223c2040@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:44 -0800, Artem Belevich wrote:
>> > Second, DO NOT use motherboards with built-in video.  These are almost
>> > always nvidia chipsets and suffer from the nvidia problem.  Also, the video
>> > is crappy and buggy.
>>
>> I'd not discount them all as a class. Intel's built-in G33/G35 with
>> recent DRM and x86-video-intel driver seem to work pretty well for
>> accelerated 2D on the few boxes I have under FreeBSD-8/amd64. I even
>> get 3D working on occasion. :-)
>
> Correct, Despite my occasional frustration with them, Intel is very
> supportive.  They are providing docs and code (linux code) and I have a
> decent relationship with the Intel graphics devs.
>
> ATI/AMD has also become much more friendly and r500 and below should
> work fairly well.  r600+ is still under development.
>
> Interestingly enough, VIA just released docs on some of their chips as
> well.  I have it on my list to work on, but I don't yet have hardware to
> work with.
>
> robert.
>
>> --Artem

Eh? ATI can't write drivers to get themselves out of a cardboard box
on Linux, let alone FreeBSD. I have little faith that they'll get
functional 64-bit drivers before nVidia does, as ATI as definitely
demonstrated that they don't care for the *BSD market as much as
nVidia has.
-Garrett



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