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Date:      Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:21:00 +0300
From:      Achilleas Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
Message-ID:  <201009131221.00549.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100910222331.GA29252@rix.kiwi-computer.com>
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Στις Saturday 11 September 2010 01:23:31 ο/η Rick C. Petty έγραψε:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 04:58:04PM +0300, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
> > 
> > Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those running them cannot afford rewriting them.
> > its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth using javascript.
> 
> Javascript doesn't provide everything that Java does, for example: threads,
> socket connections, audio, file system access, native integration, etc.
> Also although some implementations of javascript are quite fast, Java still
> outperforms them for most operations.  Also, DOM manipulation is terribly
> slow compared to Swing even.
> 

You are correct. If someone is coming from a certain technological world,
he can tolerate the many drawbacks of javascript.
If he is coming from Unix/academics/open-computing world then it is hard
to live up with the perception of quality in javascript.

> Someone else wrote:
> 
> > > Java had its day.  Time to move on.
> 
> HTML5 can't do many of those things either.  Flash at least gives you
> all of that except native integrations (which is unimportant for browsers).
> Flash and Java won't go away until all of those problems are solved by
> other means.  HTML5 is *not* the final solution for the web by any means.
> Although, I'd take h.264 support any day over applets.  =)
> 
> -- Rick C. Petty
> 



-- 
Achilleas Mantzios


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