Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 22:05:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions) Message-ID: <CANCZdfrNGXYA2MDPYOrQct3i4CGz_mTnv-rQD2R=VKvWrHDb5Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfp8b78yNB8S2j1xHUKEz5iGNvdBGnw774_sXXtN9ucrSw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPyFy2CTTecRJDnXNvF%2BM2%2BaLWJpA%2BEdG43ZeU3qwsCruecoFA@mail.gmail.com> <20200902045939.GA15897@eureka.lemis.com> <20200902060117.GG53210@home.opsec.eu> <20200902063136.GA47543@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAPyFy2ANWEiA2ndE6qr_kY=sPuY%2BeaAZg=apWo0OZPVC7pkwkg@mail.gmail.com> <20200902164706.GA49777@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CANCZdfp8b78yNB8S2j1xHUKEz5iGNvdBGnw774_sXXtN9ucrSw@mail.gmail.com>
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Steve, I was wrong to freak out so badly at your suggestion. I can give you an explanation for why but it was wrong for me to do so. I thought that the doc was better than it was and so I couldn't understand and flashed to anger rather than listening. So even so, my tone is well below the standard I try to set for myself: so it was doubly wrong. I've been doing it a lot this year, guess I'm not coping as well as I thought with the times. It's no excuse, though, and I'm sorry. I felt bad about over-reacting so I came back to things fresh today. On fresh reading, your suggestions are good ones. Very similar to the ones I came to after spending some quality time trying to edit the document you'd offered the suggestion to. The content and focus isn't quite right there. I spent a couple hours trying to fix it, only to find myself in a dead end I couldn't puzzle my way out of before quitting for the day... I'll give it another try over the weekend or next week. So please accept my apology for being a jerk, yelling at you in a truly unprofessional way and screaming when I should really have been listening. Again, anything I say by way of explanation doesn't justify it at all. Warner On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:11 AM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl < > sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: >> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl >> > <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: >> > > >> > > > A short intro on git for svn users: >> > > > https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view >> > > > >> > > >> > > ROTFL. From the "short intro", 2nd sentence. >> > > >> > > New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic >> > > operation of Git. If not, start by reading the Git Book. >> > >> > This doc started as a direct translation of the Subversion primer, >> > which has as its first sentence: >> > > New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic >> operation of Subversion. If not, start by reading the Subversion Book. >> > >> > As with the Subversion primer the doc is intended to provide a quick >> > reference for day-to-day commands, but not act as a reference or >> > introduction to the entire theory of operation of the associated VCS. >> >> Like GCC, which did the svn to git dance at start of the year, >> FreeBSD is throwing away a decade+ of corporate knowledge of >> working with svn and /usr/src. What is needed is a succinct >> translation of the most common svn commands translated to git. >> >> Checking out /usr/src as user@freebsd.org >> >> svn checkout svn+ssh://user@svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src >> >> git ... >> >> Checking out /usr/src without freebsd.org account >> >> svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head ${HOME}/freebsd/src >> >> git ... >> >> Creating diff against updated head. >> >> svn update >> svn diff > patch.diff >> >> git ... >> >> Adding a new file >> >> svn add /usr/src/libm/msun/src/_s_sinpi.c >> >> git ... >> >> Committing a change to /usr/src >> >> svn update >> svn diff <files-to-commit> | more (everyone does one last check, right?) >> svn commit <files-to-commit> >> >> git ... >> > > This is an insultingly stupid comment to make. We don't need people to say > the obvious. > > This sort of comment isn't helpful. People will just ignore you if you > make too many of them like it. > > Warner > > >
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