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Date:      Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:05:36 -0500
From:      Joseph Gelinas <scirocco@tasam.com>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        alan bryan <alanbryan1234@yahoo.com>, FreeBSD current mailing list <current@freebsd.org>, Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Subject:   Re: Side note on Shuttle XPC / AMD X2 (SN95G5V3) (Re: [PATCH] nve(4) locking cleanup)
Message-ID:  <437D6F30.3060903@tasam.com>
In-Reply-To: <200511172353.jAHNrlDl007641@apollo.backplane.com>
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Matthew Dillon wrote:
> :
> :I looked up this box and it looks pretty interesting, but I don't have 
> :funds to buy one for myself at the moment.  Is the motherboard logic any 
> :different from normal NF4 boards?  Could you try booting the FreeBSD 
> :6.0-bootonly disk to see if at least sysinstall comes up and can talk
> :to your drives and network chips?
> :
> :Scott
> 
>     I'd be happy to.  If you point me at an ISO image I can boot it up and
>     try to run through the install.  Even better if its SMP (I think all
>     FreeBSD distributions are SMP by default now, right?).
> 
>     I suspect that the MB logic is considerably different.  I have an
>     ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe NF4 system as well (its our package building box),
>     also with an AMD X2 in it, and it did not exhibit any of the problems
>     I have had with the shuttle.  
> 
>     The ASUS has a different ethernet device... sk driver instead of nv.
>     The BIOS on that MB also reports reasonable numbers in the MPTable and
>     otherwise seems to be less confused then Shuttle's BIOS.  The MP Table
>     on the ASUS lists 6 pure PCI busses while the one on the Shuttle
>     lists only 3.  Both MB's have only one IO APIC.  The BIOSes are clearly
>     very different.  Shuttle's is more 'raw'.
> 
> 							-Matt
> 

-Current's GENERIC has SMP enabled by default (and the nve driver) so I 
would assume the recent snapshots would have it enable as well.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Nov_2005/7-CURRENT-SNAP009-amd64-bootonly.iso



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