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Date:      Mon, 16 May 2005 22:32:13 -0700
From:      Christopher Cox <nuopus@gmail.com>
To:        "netroot@everyday.com.kh" <netroot@everyday.com.kh>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd reseller
Message-ID:  <6695b8f7050516223252079bd7@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1116305011.4289767335b89@pop3.telesurf.com.kh>
References:  <20050517042757.37AD216A4DC@hub.freebsd.org> <1116305011.4289767335b89@pop3.telesurf.com.kh>

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I assume you are asking the question in the same sense that Microsoft has=
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2000 for workstations and 2000 Server for servers. FreeBSD does not have a=
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separate workstatio and server software ... it is all in the way you=20
configure it and what software you have installed.

That being said, there are multiple versions of BSD. FreeBSD and OpenBSD.=
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OpenBSD focusses more on security, but both can be run as a server or=20
workstation.

Linux is the same way. For example, although Ubuntu Linux is geared for the=
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desktop user, you can always install all of the necessary software to turn=
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it into a server and remove all of the user end stuff.

Selling a seperate workstation and server is just a way for companies like=
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microsoft to make extra money on their software.

On 5/16/05, netroot@everyday.com.kh <netroot@everyday.com.kh> wrote:
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> i wanna run hosting company with freebsd server where can i find it?
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> Quoting freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org:
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> >
> > 1. php/apache/ssl core dumps (Ruben Bloemgarten)
> > 2. Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > (greg@grokking.org)
> > 3. tetex, latex, dvips (Florian Hengstberger)
> > 4. Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > (greg@grokking.org)
> > 5. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Roland Smith)
> > 6. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Florian Hengstberger)
> > 7. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 8. Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 9. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Roland Smith)
> > 10. Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer (Chris Hodgins)
> > 11. Re: daily log reports (Danny Howard)
> > 12. Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd partition on an
> > external usbdrive (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 13. Re: make depend error in kernel config (Warren)
> > 14. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (RW)
> > 15. volume problems with snd_via8233 (vaida bogdan)
> > 16. AVerMedia AVerTV GO 007 FM Plus card not detected (vaida bogdan)
> > 17. Re: IPSec and Racoon between 5.4 and 4.11 (Mike Tancsa)
> > 18. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (Joel)
> > 19. Re: silencing the boot beep (Eric Schuele)
> > 20. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > (wmc2004aug@bellsouth.net)
> > 21. (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive (Steve)
> > 22. (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive (Steve)
> > 23. Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Rob)
> > 24. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (Joel)
> > 25. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Olivier Nicole)
> > 26. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Rob)
> > 27. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Joel)
> > 28. Re: running FreeBSD 4.11 or 5.4 on a SBC (Joel)
> > 29. dual-homed gateway: polling & no-polling LANs combined. OK? (Rob)
> > 30. Re: How to use snapshots (Joel)
> > 31. Re: is this a possible DoS attack? (Joel)
> > 32. changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc. (Bagus)
> > 33. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Olivier Nicole)
> > 34. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> > 35. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> > 36. The availability of socketbits.h? (Xu Qiang)
> > 37. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Foo Ji-Haw)
> > 38. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Ed Stover)
> > 39. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:55:44 +0200
> > From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" <ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl>
> > Subject: php/apache/ssl core dumps
> > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Message-ID: <20050516205530.117E343D9E@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1250"
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to get Apache to work with both ssl and php. However, when=
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> ssl
> > apache and php are installed and the php module is set to be loaded int=
o
> > apache, apache core dumps (11). I'm using the latest ports tree. Also=
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> I've
> > tried any number of combinations of mod_php, php-extensions,
> > apache13-mod_ssl, apache13-ssl, apache then openssl etc etc. This=20
> problem
> > has been discussed before but none of the solutions seem to be working.
> > Could anyone help ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:55:55 -0700
> > From: "greg@grokking.org" <greg@grokking.org>
> > Subject: Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <428908DB.4090606@grokking.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > Bill Paul wrote:
> > > Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next
> > > five minutes and READ THIS!!
> > >
> > > You see that header on this e-mail? You see the "From:" line? Go and
> > > read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself, out loud.
> > >
> > > No no, go back and do it again.
> > >
> > > Again!
> > >
> > > You see what is says? It says "Bill Paul." It does=20
> *********NOT*********
> > > say "Paul Bill," does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?!
> > >
> > > No, it damn well doesn't! And yet, for some incomprehensible reason.
> > > the majority of you nitwits seem to think it does!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Get this through your miserable little heads: my first name is BILL!!=
!
> > > Understand that? Bill! BEE EYE ELL ELL!!!
> > >
> > > ____ _____ _ _ _ _
> > > | _ \ |_ _| | | | | | | | |
> > > | |_) | | | | | | | | | | |
> > > | _ < | | | | | | | | | |
> > > | |_) | _| |_ | |____ | |____ |_| |_|
> > > |____/ |_____| |______| |______| (_) (_)
> > >
> > >
> > > I can carve it into your skull with a rusty railroad spike if that
> > > would make it easier to remember!
> > >
> > > Do **************NOT*************** send me e-mails opening with
> > > "Dear Paul!" That is _NOT_ my name! I don't care if you don't speak
> > > english as a first language, are distracted, tired, confused, retarde=
d
> > > or the President of the United States: if you can't manage to scrape
> > > together enough neurons to correctly choose which one of two lousy
> > > syllables to use when addressing me, then I would rather never hear
> > > from you at all!!!!!!
> > >
> > > I am not kidding around here! I've been beating my brains out for
> > > you rotten bastards for ten lousy years, and after all that time
> > > I expect you to at least do me the courtesty of GETTING MY STUPID
> > > NAME RIGHT!!!!!
> > >
> > > This crap has been going on for years. It ends now. Anybody who's
> > > dumb enough to send me an e-mail addressed to "Paul" instead of "Bill=
"
> > > will be permanently banned from my inbox. I don't care if you're on
> > > fire and need me to put you out: you will become persona non grata
> > > and you will stay that way. Furthermore, anybody who screws up and
> > > gets my name wrong in person will quickly find themselves beaten,
> > > ground into a fine powder and sprinkled over Richard Stallman's
> > > oatmeal!!!
> > >
> > > And no, I don't want to hear your lousy comments on the matter!
> > > Don't follow up!! Don't reply!! Just nod quietly and DON'T MAKE THIS
> > > MISTAKE AGAIN!!!!
> > >
> > > -Bill <------------ SEE!!! LOOK!!! IT'S RIGHT THERE!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!
> > >
> >
> >
> > So...Paul...did you have a question regarding FreeBSD? :)
> > [ducks and runs for cover]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:11:22 +0200
> > From: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Subject: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <iglpiy.orf7m0@webmail.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > message:
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for dvips-5.76
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D> dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s):
> > teTeX-base-2.0.2_2
> > teTeX-texmf-2.0.2
> >
> > They install files into the same place.
> > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/print/dvips.
> >
> > How can a tex distribution conflict with and dvi to ps
> > converter???
> > Am I doing something completly wrong?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Florian
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:20:51 -0700
> > From: "greg@grokking.org" <greg@grokking.org>
> > Subject: Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <42890EB3.7080500@grokking.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > greg@grokking.org wrote:
> > > Bill Paul wrote:
> > >
> > >>Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next
> > >>five minutes and READ THIS!!
> > >>
> > >>You see that header on this e-mail? You see the "From:" line? Go and
> > >>read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself, out loud.
> > >>
> > >>No no, go back and do it again.
> > >>
> > >>Again!
> > >>
> > >>You see what is says? It says "Bill Paul." It does=20
> *********NOT*********
> > >>say "Paul Bill," does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?!
> > >>
> > >>No, it damn well doesn't! And yet, for some incomprehensible reason.
> > >>the majority of you nitwits seem to think it does!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>Get this through your miserable little heads: my first name is BILL!!=
!
> > >>Understand that? Bill! BEE EYE ELL ELL!!!
> > >>
> > >> ____ _____ _ _ _ _
> > >> | _ \ |_ _| | | | | | | | |
> > >> | |_) | | | | | | | | | | |
> > >> | _ < | | | | | | | | | |
> > >> | |_) | _| |_ | |____ | |____ |_| |_|
> > >> |____/ |_____| |______| |______| (_) (_)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I can carve it into your skull with a rusty railroad spike if that
> > >>would make it easier to remember!
> > >>
> > >>Do **************NOT*************** send me e-mails opening with
> > >>"Dear Paul!" That is _NOT_ my name! I don't care if you don't speak
> > >>english as a first language, are distracted, tired, confused, retarde=
d
> > >>or the President of the United States: if you can't manage to scrape
> > >>together enough neurons to correctly choose which one of two lousy
> > >>syllables to use when addressing me, then I would rather never hear
> > >>from you at all!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>I am not kidding around here! I've been beating my brains out for
> > >>you rotten bastards for ten lousy years, and after all that time
> > >>I expect you to at least do me the courtesty of GETTING MY STUPID
> > >>NAME RIGHT!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>This crap has been going on for years. It ends now. Anybody who's
> > >>dumb enough to send me an e-mail addressed to "Paul" instead of "Bill=
"
> > >>will be permanently banned from my inbox. I don't care if you're on
> > >>fire and need me to put you out: you will become persona non grata
> > >>and you will stay that way. Furthermore, anybody who screws up and
> > >>gets my name wrong in person will quickly find themselves beaten,
> > >>ground into a fine powder and sprinkled over Richard Stallman's
> > >>oatmeal!!!
> > >>
> > >>And no, I don't want to hear your lousy comments on the matter!
> > >>Don't follow up!! Don't reply!! Just nod quietly and DON'T MAKE THIS
> > >>MISTAKE AGAIN!!!!
> > >>
> > >>-Bill <------------ SEE!!! LOOK!!! IT'S RIGHT THERE!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So...Paul...did you have a question regarding FreeBSD? :)
> > > [ducks and runs for cover]
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Oops...sorry folks -- wrong list!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:25:44 +0200
> > From: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Cc: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Message-ID: <20050516212544.GA1539@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > message:
> >
> > Try to get a hold of a TeXLive CD. It does not install via a port, but
> > it is the most complete TeX distribution out there. Most TUGs hand them
> > out to members for free, but I think you can also buy them, e.g. at the
> > Lehmanns bookstore.
> >
> > Roland
> > --
> > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain=
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> text.
> > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:31:08 +0200
> > From: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>, "FreeBSD mailinglist"
> > <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Cc: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Message-ID: <iglqfw.solypb@webmail.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >
> > A tex live-cd? I wonder why this should be preferable to a port.
> > Anyway what's wrong with the latex port.
> > Is this port still maintained, I've read that tetex will be the
> > standard tex port in future.
> > But how to go the standard latex, xdvi, dvips way without
> > dvips?
> > Finally what about latex3e if the've finished their work??
> >
> > Thanks Florian
> >
> >
> > Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl> schrieb:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > > > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > > > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > > > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > > > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > > > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > > message:
> > >
> > > Try to get a hold of a TeXLive CD. It does not install via a port, bu=
t
> > > it is the most complete TeX distribution out there. Most TUGs hand=20
> them
> > > out to members for free, but I think you can also buy them, e.g. at=
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> the
> > > Lehmanns bookstore.
> > >
> > > Roland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: 16 May 2005 17:43:23 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Cc: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <44psvq26f8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> > "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> >
> > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> >
> > Because both of them try to install /usr/local/bin/latex (et. al.).
> >
> > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > message:
> > >
> > > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for dvips-5.76
> > >
> > > =3D=3D=3D> dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s):
> > > teTeX-base-2.0.2_2
> > > teTeX-texmf-2.0.2
> > >
> > > They install files into the same place.
> > > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/dvips.
> > >
> > > How can a tex distribution conflict with and dvi to ps
> > > converter???
> >
> > Because they install files into the same place. If you're interested
> > in which ones, look at the pkg_plist files.
> >
> > Try installing print/dvipsk-tetex.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: 16 May 2005 17:49:28 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer
> > To: Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <44ll6e2653.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> > Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com> writes:
> >
> > > I have just bought one of these printers, and am having trouble=20
> getting
> > > it to work with ghostscript. It is connected via a USB port, and it
> > > responds momentarily when I send anything directly to /dev/ulpt0.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the correct parameters for ghostscript - I think i=
t
> > > should work with device ijs and 'server' ijsgimpprint, which has been
> > > installed in /usr/local/bin.
> > >
> > > Some of the instructions recommend CUPS and FooMatic, and seem much=
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> more
> > > complicated than I ought to need for a local installation.
> > >
> > > I tested the printer with Windows, and it does work.
> >
> > You haven't mentioned what kind of problems you're having.
> >
> > Personally, I use apsfilter, which I find makes life very easy...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:55:44 +0200
> > From: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <20050516215544.GA1693@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:31:08PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > A tex live-cd? I wonder why this should be preferable to a port.
> >
> > TeXLive is a TeX distribution that you can install. I think it also
> > includes a live-cd.
> >
> > > Anyway what's wrong with the latex port.
> >
> > TeXLive contains more packages and they are better integrated. It uses
> > Type1 or TrueType fonts for almost all font families.
> >
> > > But how to go the standard latex, xdvi, dvips way without
> > > dvips?
> >
> > Like it or not, pdf(La)TeX is more and more becoming the standard. Xpdf
> > is fine for viewing pdfs, and runs on more platforms than acrobat.
> >
> > > Finally what about latex3e if the've finished their work??
> >
> > LaTeX3 (if it is ever finished) will be integrated into the different
> > distributions. OTOH, even Leslie Lamport seems to think that LaTeX will
> > fall into disuse in about five years. The consensus seems to be that
> > ConTeXt
> > is the most modern TeX macro package.
> >
> > Roland
> > --
> > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain=
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> text.
> > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt
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> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:02:56 +0100
> > From: Chris Hodgins <christopher.hodgins@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer
> > To: Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <63c3899e050516150228922b3c@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > On 5/16/05, Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com> wrote:
> > > I have just bought one of these printers, and am having trouble=20
> getting
> > > it to work with ghostscript. It is connected via a USB port, and it
> > > responds momentarily when I send anything directly to /dev/ulpt0.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the correct parameters for ghostscript - I think i=
t
> > > should work with device ijs and 'server' ijsgimpprint, which has been
> > > installed in /usr/local/bin.
> > >
> > > Some of the instructions recommend CUPS and FooMatic, and seem much=
=20
> more
> > > complicated than I ought to need for a local installation.
> > >
> > > I tested the printer with Windows, and it does work.
> > >
> >
> > Install cups.
> > Install gimp-print with "WITH_CUPS" defined.
> > Turn on your printer and make sure the USB cable is in.
> > Start cups.
> > Browse to localhost:631 and go to the add printer section.
> > Add a USB printer and if you installed gimp-print with cups support
> > you should be able to choose the correct printer from the list.
> >
> > Happy Printing. :)
> > Chris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:18 -0700
> > From: Danny Howard <dannyman@toldme.com>
> > Subject: Re: daily log reports
> > To: "parachute@optonline.net" <parachute@optonline.net>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <42891A0E.4050403@toldme.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed
> >
> > parachute@optonline.net wrote:
> >
> > > That is not my IP address or what is assigned, i was just using it
> > > for simplicity...
> > >
> > > How can I change the address it sends mail to? I rather change it to
> > > root@localhost instead or root@domain.tld. I can probably do that by
> > > changing /etc/aliases but it's strange since I didn't need to do this
> > > in 5.3
> >
> > Well, ahem, the default MTA is Sendmail ... so, this is kind of a
> > postfix question, yes?
> >
> > I'd say "make reinstall" Postfix and be sure you answer "yes" to the
> > mailer.conf question.
> >
> > Also, check /usr/local/etc/portfix/aliases.
> >
> > -d
> >
> > --
> > http://dannyman.toldme.com/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: 16 May 2005 19:54:41 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd partition on an
> > external usbdrive
> > To: "steve" <steve@digitalbluesky.net>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <44ekc6rake.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> > "steve" <steve@digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> >
> > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a freebsd
> > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > >
> >=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163=
.ht
> > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb hard
> > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > However, when I try to:
> > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > >
> > > I get the error:
> > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > >
> > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> >
> > You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > *any* /dev/da* devices?
> >
> > What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:58:43 +1000
> > From: Warren <shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com>
> > Subject: Re: make depend error in kernel config
> > To: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170958.44648.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Tue, 17 May 2005 4:55 am, you wrote:
> > > Warren <shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> writes:
> > > > Up untill 1 week ago i have been able to compile my kernel perfectl=
y
> > > > fine. However after running a CVSUP i am no longer able to compile=
=20
> my
> > > > kernel and i have not changed anything it since i did it quite a fe=
w
> > > > mnths ago. I do not have sound loaded in my kernel anywhere but=20
> rather
> > in
> > > > a different spot where it seems to be loading and working perfectly
> > fine.
> > > > Any assistance would be greatful.
> >
> >
> > > "make depend" on that kernel configuration works for me...
> > > Maybe you need to clean your build directory?
> >
> >
> > ironically i tried that and it didnt work, however i tried it again and=
=20
> by
> > miracle it actually allowed me to build the kernel no errors. Thnxs for=
=20
> the
> >
> > help.
> > --
> > Yours Sincerely
> > Shinjii
> > http://www.shinji.nq.nu
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:13:19 +0100
> > From: RW <list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170113.19514.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Monday 16 May 2005 18:02, FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
> > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
> > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> >
> >
> > NetBSD prioritises portability over performance, FreeBSD generally has=
=20
> better
> >
> > application and hardware support on a smaller set of platforms, so=20
> FreeBSD is
> >
> > the obvious choice.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:44:01 +0000
> > From: vaida bogdan <vaida.bogdan@gmail.com>
> > Subject: volume problems with snd_via8233
> > To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <12848a3b0505161744493e5343@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi, I've bought a new computer with an ASRock K7Upgrade-880
> > motherboard with 5.1 channels AC'97 Audio (quoting from install guide
> > and I have a problem with sound on Freebsd 5.4 with snd_via8233.
> >
> > After I load the module, the sound volume is set to max and even
> > though I can lower the sound bar (xmms) or lower the volume in
> > mplayer or even mixer, the volume doesn't change. I can only change it
> > from my audio boxes.
> >
> > I think it could be a module problem because it works ok in windows.
> >
> > # cat /dev/sndstat
> > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
> > Installed devices:
> > pcm0: <VIA VT8237> at io 0xd000 irq 22 kld snd_via8233 (5p/1r/0v
> > channels duplex default)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:45:31 +0000
> > From: vaida bogdan <vaida.bogdan@gmail.com>
> > Subject: AVerMedia AVerTV GO 007 FM Plus card not detected
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <12848a3b05051617453b2bf0a@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > I used the handbook instructions:
> >
> > bktr_load=3D"YES" to loader.conf
> > +/- hw.bt848.tuner=3D6 in sysctl.conf
> >
> > bktr man page tells me my tuner is supported, yet dmesg's output shows
> > only:
> >
> > bktr_mem: memory holder loaded
> >
> > I also tried compilling it in the kernel (by the manual) with no=20
> success.
> >
> > This is the first time I tried using a tvtuner on fbsd so I could have
> > got smthg wrong. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:56:47 -0400
> > From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
> > Subject: Re: IPSec and Racoon between 5.4 and 4.11
> > To: Daren Russell <darenr@end-design.co.uk>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <23gi81pattnnan1rlv8uc0dva1ken5r8cj@4ax.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:50 +0100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
> > you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Has anybody got 5.4 <-> 4.11 talking in this config, or does anybody
> > >know of any pitfalls because of kernel changes?
> >
> > There should not be any issues as I have 90+ RELENG4 boxes deployed
> > talking to a 5.4 server and a dozen RELENG_5 boxes talking to 2
> > RELENG_4 servers generally with out issue. The one thing we run into
> > from time to time is the issue of net.key.prefered_oldsa=3D1 on
> > FAST_IPSEC on RELENG_4. But other than that, it works. What issues
> > are you running into ? Did you enable debug logging in racoon ? What
> > state do the tunnels get to ? i.e what does setkey -D show ?
> >
> > ---Mike
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
> > Providing Internet Access since 1994
> > mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:36:22 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml@gmail.com>, questions
> > <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517103300.2930.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:03:18 -0400
> > Tomas Quintero <tomasq@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > > On 5/16/05, FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web=
.
> > > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> > > >
> > > > I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am=20
> hoping
> > > > that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
> > > > performance.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Tomoki Taniguchi
> > >
> > > Hell, put Windows NT4 on it. It's all the same. If you're not doing
> > > anything special on it, it doesn't really matter imo.
> >
> > Say what?
> >
> > NT4 for browsing the web? With known vulnerabilities and no maintenance=
?
> >
> > Be civil.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:38:11 -0500
> > From: Eric Schuele <e.schuele@computer.org>
> > Subject: Re: silencing the boot beep
> > To: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <42894B03.8080105@computer.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii; format=3Dflowed
> >
> > Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > > Eric Schuele <e.schuele@computer.org> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Allan Bowhill wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Does anyone know how to turn off the annoying beep when BSD
> > >>>partition selector comes up?
> > >>
> > >>Wish I knew... I could use this as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > You could modify your sources to remove it.
> > > Pretty simple; just remove the putchr (line 205 of boot0.S).
> > >
> >
> > OK... Thanks. I'll give it a try.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Eric
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:00:56 -0400
> > From: wmc2004aug@bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516215636.02a1c380@mailsvr.xxiii.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed
> >
> > At 09:36 PM 5/16/2005, you wrote:
> > >... It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD ...
> > >... Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> >
> > I have a system with nearly identical specs that runs DNS and some othe=
r
> > minor services on our external network. While I can't comment on NetBSD=
,=20
> I
> >
> > would suggest that with FreeBSD in that little memory, you should take=
=20
> the
> > time to configure and compile a stripped-down kernel. It saves 5 or 6 M=
B
> > of ram on mine (ie: a good chuck of 64MB!)
> >
> > -Wayne
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:11:18 -0400
> > From: Steve <steve@digitalbluesky.net>
> > Subject: (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <6.2.1.2.0.20050516220806.0276a350@mail.digitalbluesky.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed
> >
> >
> > I went back and tried the whole partitioning process again following th=
e
> > instructions EXACTLY as laid out in section 16.3.1 of the FreeBSD=20
> handbook
> > and it worked this time.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 5/16/2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > >"steve" <steve@digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a=20
> freebsd
> > > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > > >
> > >
> >=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163=
.ht
> > > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb=20
> hard
> > > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > > However, when I try to:
> > > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > > >
> > > > I get the error:
> > > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> > >
> > >You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > >were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > >*any* /dev/da* devices?
> > >
> > >What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:11:18 -0400
> > From: Steve <steve@digitalbluesky.net>
> > Subject: (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <6.2.1.2.0.20050516220806.0276a350@mail.digitalbluesky.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed
> >
> >
> > I went back and tried the whole partitioning process again following th=
e
> > instructions EXACTLY as laid out in section 16.3.1 of the FreeBSD=20
> handbook
> > and it worked this time.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 5/16/2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > >"steve" <steve@digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a=20
> freebsd
> > > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > > >
> > >
> >=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163=
.ht
> > > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb=20
> hard
> > > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > > However, when I try to:
> > > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > > >
> > > > I get the error:
> > > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> > >
> > >You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > >were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > >*any* /dev/da* devices?
> > >
> > >What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517023224.71177.qmail@web54006.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My lab bought a new computer, which I have to
> > configure as a dual-homed/gateway, sambaserver,
> > http-server, etc. This I know how to do.
> > I'm using 5.4-RELEASE for this computer.
> >
> > Among many things 'built-in' on the motherboard,
> > it has this also built-in:
> > skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet
> > firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
> > fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire>
> >
> > (these lines are from dmesg output)
> >
> > The 'skc0' has the regular ethernet socket (RJ-45
> > connector), so I can use that as one ethernet
> > connection.
> >
> > Can I use the firewire/ethernet as the second
> > ethernet card on this computer. If yes, how?
> > I'm not at all familiar with firewire stuff.
> > The lines in the dmesg output actually triggered
> > this question.
> >
> > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > BTW: what are the advantages and disadvantages of
> > using this firewire thing as ethernet device?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:39:40 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517103652.2933.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Tue, 17 May 2005 01:02:42 +0800
> > FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
> > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> > >
> > > I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
> > > that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
> > > performance.
> >
> > Performance? Which OS may be the wrong question.
> >
> > If you want it to browse the web, add RAM. If possible, add 512MB.
> >
> > I'd ask how much experience you have with the command line. netBSD (and
> > openBSD) will require much more work on the command line than freeBSD.
> >
> > I'd also ask whether you need multibyte text. If so, freeBSD's support
> > of locales is better than netBSD's or openBSD's.
> >
> > I understand that it is possible to get a window manager working with
> > only 64 MB of RAM, but you would want to use one of the bare bones, dea=
d
> > simple ones, _not_ Gnome or KDE. Even if you can raise the RAM to 512=
=20
> MB,
> > you'll still probably prefer to use a simpler window manager.
> >
> > If you really know what you are doing, you can get better performance o=
n
> > small systems with netBSD. But if you knew that much, you wouldn't be
> > asking.
> >
> > Pick one, go for it, expect to learn a lot. As much as possible, avoid
> > compiling on a box that slow. Use binary packages when you can.
> >
> > Expect compiles to take days, not hours. With only 64MB, don't be
> > surprised if a moderately large source package takes more than a week t=
o
> > compile.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:42:47 +0700 (ICT)
> > From: Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: spamrefuse@yahoo.com
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170242.j4H2glVx014970@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what it says it is,
> > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the other end you also
> > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> >
> > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I guess.
> >
> > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend that you buy proper
> > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable (last longer,
> > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some weird Ethernet
> > switches...) than cheap solution like "over Firewire". Is it worth
> > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a good share of
> > your lab infrastructure?
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 26
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <20050517024840.93539.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> >
> > --- Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th> wrote:
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> > >
> > > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what
> > > it says it is,
> > > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the
> > > other end you also
> > > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> > >
> > > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I
> > > guess.
> > >
> > > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend
> > > that you buy proper
> > > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable
> > > (last longer,
> > > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some
> > > weird Ethernet
> > > switches...) than cheap solution like "over
> > > Firewire". Is it worth
> > > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a
> > > good share of
> > > your lab infrastructure?
> >
> > I had no idea what this firewire stuff was about,
> > but in that case I will ignore it and buy another
> > decent LAN card.
> > Thanks for your explanation.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> > Discover Yahoo!
> > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out!
> > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 27
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:22:50 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517115242.2936.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > > My lab bought a new computer, which I have to
> > > configure as a dual-homed/gateway, sambaserver,
> > > http-server, etc. This I know how to do.
> > > I'm using 5.4-RELEASE for this computer.
> > >
> > > Among many things 'built-in' on the motherboard,
> > > it has this also built-in:
> > > skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet
> > > firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
> > > fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire>
> > >
> > > (these lines are from dmesg output)
> > >
> > > The 'skc0' has the regular ethernet socket (RJ-45
> > > connector), so I can use that as one ethernet
> > > connection.
> > >
> > > Can I use the firewire/ethernet as the second
> > > ethernet card on this computer. If yes, how?
> > > I'm not at all familiar with firewire stuff.
> > > The lines in the dmesg output actually triggered
> > > this question.
> > >
> > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector.
> >
> > That would be extremely odd if it were an RJ-45. Firewire (IEEE1394)
> > uses two or three physical connectors, but none of them are RJ-45.
> >
> > > Do I
> > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > You don't really want a converter. The point of ethernet over firewire
> > was to allow two computers (or other devices, like high-end video) to
> > route ethernet over a firewire cable.
> >
> > > BTW: what are the advantages and disadvantages of
> > > using this firewire thing as ethernet device?
> >
> > I've seen USB "modems" (telco network to USB), haven't seen any Firewir=
e
> > modems, which seems a little odd, since USB and IP are not a good fit,
> > and since Firewire includes IP over firewire in the standard. I guess
> > that's just because iNTEL decided to put USB (an iNTEL technology) into
> > their chipsets, so USB is ubiquitous.
> >
> > Just for fun, I searched on google for "firewire ethernet" and found
> > this:
> >
> > <http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=3D04/05/28/0831203&mode=3Dthread>;
> >
> > It may answer some of your questions.
> >
> > Probably, the only way this would help in your case is if you had two
> > boxes with firewire on two separate but physically close networks and
> > wanted to use those two boxes as a bridge between the two networks.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 28
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:37:17 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: running FreeBSD 4.11 or 5.4 on a SBC
> > To: "Freebsd-Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517122525.293C.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > > I have a need for a Single Board Computer (SBC), something like the
> > TS-5600
> > >
> > > http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/ts5600-spec-p.php
> > >
> > > My requirements are:
> > >
> > > +100MHz CPU
> > > Wireless 802.11b
> > > 3 or 4 Serial ports
> > > boot from a CF card
> > > 8 ch. A/D
> > > 2 ch. D/A
> > > less than 5 watts of power!
> > >
> > > is this do-able in FreeBSD?
> >
> > It has been done. You could probably find something about several such
> > projects by searching on your favorite search engine for "sbc freebsd"
> > or something similar.
> >
> > As noted, netbsd, openbsd, and various flavors of Linux have also been
> > used in this sort of device with good results. (More terms you might
> > want to search on.)
> >
> > > Since I am on this subject, I was going to use an old P-120=20
> motherboard
> > > running with a hard drive for development.
> > > Does any one know of a cheep A/D - D/A and DIO PCI card that can be=
=20
> used
> > > with FreeBSD?
> >
> > Again, they exist. You'll probably come across such hardware while
> > doing the above searches.
> >
> > > I am hoping to most of the development in C (little as possible, as I=
=20
> am
> > > just learning C), and shell scripts.
> >
> > You'll probably find some mailing lists in the process as well, where
> > you can get help with this.
> >
> > Have fun. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 29
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: dual-homed gateway: polling & no-polling LANs combined. OK?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517033957.97192.qmail@web54003.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a dual-homed gateway, running 5.4 release.
> >
> > I have one LAN card for which with polling is
> > supported, but for the other one it's not.
> >
> > Is it a good idea to use polling for the one card,
> > and leave the other in no-polling state.
> >
> > Is that OK? Advantages/disadvantages? Recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Mail
> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
> > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 30
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:46:41 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: How to use snapshots
> > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Message-ID: <20050517124310.293F.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > (reformatted, to maintain the thread)
> >
> > > > > ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ looks like
> > > > install disc1
> > > > > content.
> > > > >
> > > > > How or what do I need to run to use this to update my system?
> > > > >
> > > > > Been to the official handbook with no luck.
> > > >
> > > > It's exactly like any other install image.
> > > > Boot the floppies and do a binary upgrade.
> > >
> > > I have no idea what you mean by those statements.
> > > What floppies are you talking about?
> > > What does what you say have to do with system snapshots.
> > >
> > > How do I download the snapshot version with all the files and
> > > sub-directors?
> > >
> > > This snapshot URL must be a normal thing available to the general
> > > FreeBSD user.
> > > So there must be some pre-canned way to download and use it.
> > > How do I find this out?
> >
> > Read this whole section:
> >
> >=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.ht=
ml
> >
> > Note, in particular, under the heading
> >
> > 19.2.2.3 <http://19.2.2.3>; Using FreeBSD-STABLE
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 31
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:51:34 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: is this a possible DoS attack?
> > To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517124657.2942.REES@ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:26:58 -0600
> > "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net <http://Shire.Net>; LLC" <chad@shire.net> wrote
> > > [...]
> > > May 16 02:20:00 crickhollow named[87025]: zone 22.63.209.in-addr.arpa=
/
> > > IN: loading master file ptr.209.63.22: file not found
> > > May 16 02:33:31 crickhollow /kernel: Limiting icmp unreach response
> > > from 232 to 200 packets per second
> > > May 16 03:14:52 crickhollow /kernel: All mbufs exhausted, please see
> > > tuning(7).
> > > May 16 03:14:53 crickhollow last message repeated 3 times
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: o 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.7=
0.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.7=
0.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.7=
0.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 on dc0"
> > > [...]
> >
> > NIC in 166.70.252.252 <http://166.70.252.252>; going bad?
> >
> > Some sort early morning of line noise? (I'd suggest the solar flare, bu=
t
> > I think that was before the weekend.)
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. =1B$B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`=1B(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp>; **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 32
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:11:25 -0500
> > From: "Bagus" <bagus@cox.net>
> > Subject: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <NFBBJMMIKLKCDJIPOPLFGEPKFNAA.bagus@cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not sure=
=20
> of
> > all the syntax.
> >
> > If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > hostname=3D"john"
> > ifconfig_fxp0=3D"DHCP"
> >
> > now I'm hoping to have a
> >
> > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>;
> > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>;
> > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>;
> > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>;
> >
> > I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the=20
> 'search'
> > line in there do?
> >
> > Any other considerations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bagus
> >
> > p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only=20
> have
> > "11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box online!
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 33
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:07:45 +0700 (ICT)
> > From: Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: bagus@cox.net
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170407.j4H47jFr070180@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
> >
> > > now I'm hoping to have a
> > >
> > > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>;
> > > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>;
> > > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>;
> > > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>;
> >
> >
> > in /etc/rc.conf
> >
> > ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>; netmask=20
> 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>"
> > defaultrouter=3D"204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>"
> > hostname=3D"bagus.org <http://bagus.org>"
> >
> > in /etc/resolv.conf
> >
> > dunno, what do you expect to have?
> >
> > olivier
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 34
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:14:33 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <5ef8c2f005051621143a9f4076@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > On 5/17/05, Bagus <bagus@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not=20
> sure
> > of
> > > all the syntax.
> > >
> > > If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > > hostname=3D"john"
> > > ifconfig_fxp0=3D"DHCP"
> > >
> > > now I'm hoping to have a
> > >
> > > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>;
> > > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>;
> > > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>;
> > > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>;
> > >
> > > I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the
> > 'search'
> > > line in there do?
> > >
> > > Any other considerations?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bagus
> > >
> > > p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > > how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only=
=20
> have
> > > "11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > > configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box=20
> online!
> > >
> >
> > I use the following on my rc.conf:
> >
> > ifconfig_xl0=3D"inet 192.168.200.8 <http://192.168.200.8>; netmask=20
> 255.255.255.0 <http://255.255.255.0>"
> > defaultrouter=3D"192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>"
> > hostname=3D"uirapuru.pinguim"
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 35
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:18:09 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <5ef8c2f0050516211870a4f20a@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > I forgot to say, my router is configured as a DNS proxy (probably the
> > default in your setup, too), so I put its address on /etc/resolv.conf:
> >
> > nameserver 192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>;
> >
> > "man resolv.conf" should enlighten you about what the "search" option
> > does; I don't need it, so my whole resolv.conf file consists of that
> > single line above.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 36
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:22:27 +0800
> > From: Xu Qiang <Qiang.Xu@fujixerox.com>
> > Subject: The availability of socketbits.h?
> > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> > Message-ID: <20050517041306.1888E1D92E@imss.sgp.fujixerox.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1
> >
> > Hi, all:
> >
> > I am compiling NNGS (No Name Go Server) code in my FreeBSD 5.3 machine.=
=20
> Yet,
> > I came across the following error:
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > gcc -traditional-cpp -Wall -DFREEBSD -c network.c
> > network.c:23: socketbits.h: No such file or directory
> > gmake: *** [network.o] Error 1
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have searched for this file in my system, but can't find it.
> >
> > To have it present, which software must I install?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Xu Qiang
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 37
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:26:53 +0800
> > From: Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo@nexlabs.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre@gmail.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <4289728D.7070805@nexlabs.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed
> >
> > This brings to mind a question, I've been wanting to ask:
> >
> > How does one get the system to read the rc.conf changes without
> > rebooting the system?
> >
> > Jos=E9 de Paula Rodrigues wrote:
> >
> > >On 5/17/05, Bagus <bagus@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not=20
> sure
> > of
> > >>all the syntax.
> > >>
> > >>If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > >>hostname=3D"john"
> > >>ifconfig_fxp0=3D"DHCP"
> > >>
> > >>now I'm hoping to have a
> > >>
> > >>hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>;
> > >>gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>;
> > >>ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>;
> > >>netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>;
> > >>
> > >>I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the
> > 'search'
> > >>line in there do?
> > >>
> > >>Any other considerations?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>Bagus
> > >>
> > >>p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > >>how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only=
=20
> have
> > >>"11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > >>configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box=20
> online!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I use the following on my rc.conf:
> > >
> > >ifconfig_xl0=3D"inet 192.168.200.8 <http://192.168.200.8>; netmask=20
> 255.255.255.0 <http://255.255.255.0>"
> > >defaultrouter=3D"192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>"
> > >hostname=3D"uirapuru.pinguim"
> > >
> > >HTH.
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:23:49 -0600
> > From: Ed Stover <estover@nativenerds.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: Olivier Nicole <on@cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Cc: spamrefuse@yahoo.com
> > Message-ID: <428971D5.5080902@nativenerds.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> >
> > Olivier Nicole wrote:
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > >
> > >>Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > >>use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > >>The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > >>'1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > >>need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> > Just drop $15 for another NIC.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what it says it is,
> > > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the other end you also
> > > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> > >
> > > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I guess.
> > Firewire is essentially twice as fast as 100baseT and almost as fast as
> > 1000baseT (GigaBit)
> > >
> > > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend that you buy proper
> > > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable (last longer,
> > > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some weird Ethernet
> > > switches...) than cheap solution like "over Firewire".
> > "over firewire" is not a cheap solution, actually it will cost you more
> > upfront and in the long run then ethernet.
> > > Is it worth
> > > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a good share of
> > > your lab infrastructure?
> > Remember a decent NIC is $8-$15 ..
> > >
> > > Olivier
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> > Message: 39
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:27:45 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo@nexlabs.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> > On 5/17/05, Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo@nexlabs.com> wrote:
> > > This brings to mind a question, I've been wanting to ask:
> > >
> > > How does one get the system to read the rc.conf changes without
> > > rebooting the system?
> > >
> >
> > Just restart the appropriate service (usually found in /etc/rc.d or
> > /usr/local/etc/rc.d).
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