Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:02:18 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <D895B4AC28EEDCDD1A5CFDC3@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <20080606115349.452eea4b.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <200806051023.56065.jhb@freebsd.org> <CE0D857CF3C54017B29052F0@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <1212684781.10665.81.camel@localhost> <8A3638B8BF777C9DF4AB354A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080606115349.452eea4b.usselmann.m@icg-online.de>
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--On June 6, 2008 11:53:49 AM +0200 Manfred Usselmann <usselmann.m@icg-online.de> wrote: > > What you are saying sounds like a contradiction to me. On one side it > is just a hobby site and generates no income and on the other hand it > is a critical server with millions of hits and the box can't even go > down for a short time. > > What happens in case lets say your harddisk crashes? Something which is > not an exactly rare case... > Actually, that happened to us a couple of years ago, on the old server while it still the only server, and I was on vacation 1600 miles away. We ended up having to pay the hosting company to fix the hardware problem and reinstall FreeBSD (which they unfortunately did a lousy job of), and then I rebuilt the server and restored it to service over a dialup account while on vacation. Many of our users are retired old guys who can barely figure out how to use a computer. When the site goes down, some of them claim to go into withdrawal. The total downtime for that incident was about two days, and they "suffered" greatly. > If the users are not paying for the service they should be able to > accept a downtime, may it be scheduled or even completely unexpected. > Or pay / donate for a more reliable service (Redundant server as hot > standby / testbed etc.). > Actually, it was the owners who had to be convinced to accept donations from the users, who were all too willing to help. The new server was purchased with those donations. Maybe some day we *will* be able to afford redundancy. Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer.
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