Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:02:18 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 Message-ID: <D895B4AC28EEDCDD1A5CFDC3@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <20080606115349.452eea4b.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <200806051023.56065.jhb@freebsd.org> <CE0D857CF3C54017B29052F0@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <1212684781.10665.81.camel@localhost> <8A3638B8BF777C9DF4AB354A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080606115349.452eea4b.usselmann.m@icg-online.de>
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--==========1F4510CD20D46A1CF9D0========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On June 6, 2008 11:53:49 AM +0200 Manfred Usselmann=20 <usselmann.m@icg-online.de> wrote: > > What you are saying sounds like a contradiction to me. On one side it > is just a hobby site and generates no income and on the other hand it > is a critical server with millions of hits and the box can't even go > down for a short time. > > What happens in case lets say your harddisk crashes? Something which is > not an exactly rare case... > Actually, that happened to us a couple of years ago, on the old server=20 while it still the only server, and I was on vacation 1600 miles away. We = ended up having to pay the hosting company to fix the hardware problem and = reinstall FreeBSD (which they unfortunately did a lousy job of), and then=20 I rebuilt the server and restored it to service over a dialup account=20 while on vacation. Many of our users are retired old guys who can barely figure out how to=20 use a computer. When the site goes down, some of them claim to go into=20 withdrawal. The total downtime for that incident was about two days, and=20 they "suffered" greatly. > If the users are not paying for the service they should be able to > accept a downtime, may it be scheduled or even completely unexpected. > Or pay / donate for a more reliable service (Redundant server as hot > standby / testbed etc.). > Actually, it was the owners who had to be convinced to accept donations=20 from the users, who were all too willing to help. The new server was=20 purchased with those donations. Maybe some day we *will* be able to=20 afford redundancy. Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========1F4510CD20D46A1CF9D0==========--
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