Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:11:20 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: thunderbird in German? Message-ID: <20190805071120.c258204a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190804093710.66948e68@archlinux> References: <87o91bw4mx.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190731012754.3783a859.freebsd@edvax.de> <878ssc5v3x.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190802060356.eebda021.freebsd@edvax.de> <87tvaz8gkn.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190802213025.884985d57dbfd7bf20ae4cd5@sohara.org> <87lfw9bxeb.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190804093710.66948e68@archlinux>
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 09:37:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 02:13:32 +0200, hw wrote: > >Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> writes: > >> On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:20:40 +0200 hw <hw@adminart.net> wrote: > >> > >>> I'll still try Sylpheed ... It's been around for a while now, and > >>> I'm curious. > >> > >> I've been happy with it for many years now. > > > >Well, it seemed pretty good, and I intend to use it instead of > >Thunderbird or seamonkey. I'm not sure if it would be wise to make the > >users switch over as well, though. But then, it might just be wise > >because sylpheed might cause less trouble in the long run. > > Hi, > > that's a naive miscalculation. I dislike Mozilla projects for several > reasons, but what makes you think that Sylpheed might cause less trouble > in the long run? It might not cause trouble on FreeBSD yet, but it will > in the short run, since on Linux it already does, as all GTK apps and > especially GTK2 apps do. That is an important thought! As Gtk2 probably will EOL just like Gtk (1) did, newer toolkit versions _might_ tie much stronger into Linux infrastructures than the current version does, and porting them to FreeBSD might cause trouble because of missing kernel interfaces or library functions. > Some projects have got > a GTK2 and GTK3 port and you get rid of this issue, when compiling > against GTK3. I don't know if Sylpheed has got a GTK3 port, but Claws > has got, unfortunately it's "experimental", IOW broken in many ways. > You also might have noticed that some Linux projects migrated from GTK > to Qt. Let's see how Qt development is on FreeBSD... > Btw. way closer to Thunderbird features is Evolution. Claws and > Sylpheed are lightweight, but might miss features one or the other user > might need. That's why it's important to evaluate beforehand which features are needed by the users. Lightweight doesn't always mean usable _in a specific setting_, but it _could_ be, depending on the features needed. And you're right that Evolution is hardly "lightweight", but more like Thunderbird in terms of provided features. > Actually I migrated from Mozilla MUAs to Evolution years ago. I tested > Kmail, but experienced way to many issues. Can confirm. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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