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Date:      Tue, 3 Sep 2019 10:34:35 -0400
From:      Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>
To:        Justin Hibbits <chmeeedalf@gmail.com>
Cc:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, Mateusz Guzik <mjg@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r351729 - in head: lib/libc/gen lib/libc/sys sys/compat/freebsd32 sys/kern sys/sys
Message-ID:  <20190903143435.27atd53bvyj57sxh@mutt-hbsd>
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On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 09:32:27AM -0500, Justin Hibbits wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 10:20:35 -0400
> Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 07:47:40AM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 11:45:23AM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: =20
> > > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 07:35:05AM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: =20
> > > > > Hey Mateusz,
> > > > >=20
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:16:31AM +0000, Mateusz Guzik wrote: =
=20
> > > > > > Author: mjg
> > > > > > Date: Tue Sep  3 04:16:30 2019
> > > > > > New Revision: 351729
> > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/351729
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Log:
> > > > > >   Add sysctlbyname system call
> > > > > >  =20
> > > > > >   Previously userspace would issue one syscall to resolve the
> > > > > > sysctl and then another one to actually use it. Do it all in
> > > > > > one trip.=20
> > > > > >   Fallback is provided in case newer libc happens to be
> > > > > > running on an older kernel.
> > > > > >  =20
> > > > > >   Submitted by:	Pawel Biernacki
> > > > > >   Reported by:	kib, brooks
> > > > > >   Differential Revision:
> > > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D17282
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Modified: =20
> > > > > ... snip ... =20
> > > > > >   head/sys/sys/param.h =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > ... snip ...
> > > > >  =20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Modified: head/sys/sys/param.h
> > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > > > --- head/sys/sys/param.h	Mon Sep  2 21:57:57
> > > > > > 2019	(r351728) +++ head/sys/sys/param.h	Tue Sep
> > > > > >  3 04:16:30 2019	(r351729) @@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
> > > > > >   *		in the range 5 to 9.
> > > > > >   */
> > > > > >  #undef __FreeBSD_version
> > > > > > -#define __FreeBSD_version 1300044	/* Master,
> > > > > > propagated to newvers */ +#define __FreeBSD_version
> > > > > > 1300045	/* Master, propagated to newvers */ =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > To an outsider, it seems that __FreeBSD_version tends to be
> > > > > bumped in a separate commit. Am I remembering that right? =20
> > > >=20
> > > > It should be bumped in the same commit, but people forget or the
> > > > bump they have in their review turns into a no-op because someone
> > > > else does a bump in the interim (the latter has bit me several
> > > > times). =20
> > >=20
> > > Interesting. Thanks for the clarification! =20
> >=20
> > One thought for making the version bump a seperate commit is if the
> > original commit needed to be reverted, the commit can be reverted
> > wholesale (well, from the perspective of __FreeBSD_version) without
> > worry of accidentally decrementing the version number to a prior
> > value.
> >=20
> > That's my "need-more-caffeine" verbose way of saying "separating the
> > version bump from the actual work allows for easier maintenance of the
> > version number, helping ensure an always-increasing number."
> >=20
> > Sorry if I sound dry here. My ten-month-old puppy is tiring me out way
> > faster than I can tire him out.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
>=20
> I always thought convention was separate commits to ease MFCs.  The few
> times I've bumped __FreeBSD_version I've done it explicitly as a
> followup commit for that reason.  Guess I now know better :)

I should also note that I'm looking at this from an outsider's
perspective, which may not reflect the same perspective as an
insider's. :)

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