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Date:      Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:32:56 -0500
From:      Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Tim Kientzle <kientzle@FreeBSD.org>, current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Hal and KDM breakage (was Re: KDE4 and input events stalled)
Message-ID:  <1239150776.1947.28.camel@balrog.2hip.net>
In-Reply-To: <1239150469.98664.18.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
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On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 20:27 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 16:53 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
> > wrote:
> >        =20
> >        =20
> >         It's not a question of what hal is doing, but rather how
> >         console-kit
> >         works (and hald depends on console-kit-daemon).  It needs to
> >         be able to
> >         monitor each of the active vtys...
> >=20
> > This is the part of the picture I'm still missing.  *Why* does
> > hald (via console-kit) care about tracking active vtys?
> > (I presume hald actually doesn't care but that some client
> > of hald needs this information.... ???)
>=20
> ConsoleKit monitors the vtys for active changes so it can provide
> consumers such as hal and PolicyKit information about active sessions.
> In particular, hal uses CK to determine if a user is currently logged in
> on the console, and if so, allows that user to mount certain volumes
> that would otherwise not be allowed.
>=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >         ....  Bland did some work to correct this in -CURRENT, but it
> >         won't work on other versions.  It was just easier to leave the
> >         hack in
> >         place.
> >        =20
> >         If this could be universally fixed in all supported versions
> >         of FreeBSD,
> >         then I would be happy to remove the hacks.
> >=20
> > I'm still curious whether it's feasible to just not monitor the vtys.
>=20
> Sure, you can try it.  Especially if you're not using GNOME, this might
> be fine.  Just remove the hacks from hald's rc.d script.

I wonder if it might be sane to check for enable_gnome=3D"YES" to delay...

robert.

> Joe
>=20
> >=20
--=20
Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
FreeBSD

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