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Date:      Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:15:59 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: deorbiting /usr/lib/libstand.a, moving to sysboot
Message-ID:  <1507565759.77958.7.camel@freebsd.org>
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On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 10:09 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 17:57 +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 9 Oct 2017, at 07:45, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to deorbit /usr/lib/stand.a and /usr/include/stand.h. These
> > are
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > really parts of the boot loader with an unstable API and shouldn't be
> > > > installed into the system. It's really a private library to the boot
> > loader.
> > > 
> > > Though I completely agree with this, I am still interested in the
> > > historical reasons for separating out this library for general userland
> > > consumption.  Were there any other parts of world that happened to use
> > > libstand?
> > > 
> > > -Dimitry
> > > 
> > There are out-of-tree users of libstand.  Perhaps not many, but a
> > couple times after doing something to libstand I've received emails
> > from people that thanked me for the enhancement and mentioned some non-
> > loader(8) use of the lib in passing.  (Unfortunately, I can't find any
> > of those mails now, they were from 2-3 years ago.)
> > 
> They can email me and I'll help them convert over... :)
> 
> Warner

Actually, I got distracted, then came back and hit Send too soon.  I
meant to ask "Will the library still be accessible to out of tree
users?", so that adjusting to the change will amount to fixing some
build breakage to adjust to a new location?

-- Ian



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