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Date:      Wed, 12 May 1999 17:34:36 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Joerg Micheel <joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Cc:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: the new config and booting 
Message-ID:  <199905130034.RAA02533@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:17 %2B1200." <19990513121617.B25283@cs.waikato.ac.nz> 

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> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 05:06:03PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > well, I wonder if other people have noticed this also, but if you don't
> > > have a previous boot loader installed (like windows/dos) the ONLY way
> > > to install onto a machine is TO use a dangerously dedicated mode...
> > 
> > This is quite untrue.   I do a lot of installs to virgin systems on a 
> > wide range of hardware, and I haven't encountered any situations where 
> > DD has been necessary in a long time.  OTOH, I have met many where DD 
> > would be fatal.
> 
> Virgin systems is not virgin disks. If you buy a complete PC, this
> bootloader from Redmonton is already on the disk. I had similiar
> problems a while back and unless someone has explicitely looked
> after this, it still persits.

I am not a complete idiot, and when I say "virgin" system, I mean it.

I'm quite aware of your problem.  I outlined several solutions to it in 
the previous message, and elaborated on them in the handbook update I 
wrote about DD mode.  I'm always looking for better ways of dealing 
with this problem; DD mode is not one however.

-- 
\\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
\\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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