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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:38:26 -0500 (EST)
From:      Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: default pager (csh)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.64.1502191233460.11867@sea.ntplx.net>
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015, Ian Lepore wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-02-19 at 07:46 +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote:
>>> On 19 Feb 2015, at 02:27, Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> The PAGER was less for about half a year and reverted.  Please see:
>>>>
>>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=242643
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>>> OK, I think this ends the discussion =)
>>
>> Nope, not good enough.  The way I see it we achieved nothing
>> despite the fact that several bugs are on the table.
>>
>> Now that we all agree more(1) is the way to go, can we please fix
>> colouring and the pager quit issue for man pages using sensible
>> options in more(1)?
>>
>> Other's should speak up for their woes with the FreeBSD defaults
>> too.  The defaults are supposed to be the best we can do.  Right
>> now, we can actually do better.  :)
>
> I sure hope "fix coloring" is shorthand for "don't you dare turn on any
> of that color crap without the user's permission."

Agree!  Leave pager alone.

And I kind of like that PAGER exits when you get to the end, but
perhaps I'm in the minority on that.

The thing I can't stand is losing all contents of 'man' when you
exit the pager, so I'm with Julian on that too.

-- 
DE



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