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Date:      Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:48:42 +1000
From:      "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
To:        "Kevin McCarty" <mccark@sage.edu>
Cc:        "Gail Pickett" <gmpicket@icx.net>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>, "m l mack" <mlmack@speakeasy.org>, <kmccart1@nycap.rr.com>
Subject:   Re: newbies
Message-ID:  <01a301bfaa49$096fa730$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0004191705380.15183-100000@zeus>

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'Fraid I've never had much to do with printing in unix, specially that
regular ghostscript stuff. I use the CUPS utility with Solaris because its
infinitely more logical, but when I looked recently I couldn't find a binary
for FreeBSD


> Thanks, I was seting up some servers for DNS and using freebsd and openbsd
> and whenever I posted a question, I never got a response. Appreciate your
> time.

Hmmmm ..... I'm still wading through the docs on that DNS stuff .... seems
to be one of the less well explained areas
>
> Could you send me a copy of a /etc/printcap file that does network
> printing.
>
> I am having a heck of a time with a local printer using ghostscript and
> *view.
> thanks
> kevin
>
> please respond to kmccart1@nycap.rr.com
>
>
>
> ttyl
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Doug Young wrote:
>
> > Came here OK :)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin McCarty" <mccark@sage.edu>
> > To: "Gail Pickett" <gmpicket@icx.net>
> > Cc: "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>;
> > <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>; "m l mack" <mlmack@speakeasy.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: newbies
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello and good day, could someone respond if they get this
message.....
> > > I ahve posted numerous messages and have not gotten any response.
> > > thanks
> > > kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Gail Pickett wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been living with and learning FreeBSD for six months now, and
I
> > am
> > > > indebted to the FreeBSD mailing list archives for the wealth of
> > > > information and usable answers provided within.  I am still trying
to
> > get
> > > > my machine completely set up; I guess this is an on going process
that
> > > > never ends.
> > > >
> > > > Overall the handbook, tutorials and manpages are excellent.  I would
> > like
> > > > to see more examples included with the manpages.  Many manpages, the
> > > > first time I look at them, are like reading greek; an example or two
of
> > > > the most commonly used variations of a command would save lots of
time
> > and
> > > > errors.
> > > >
> > > > The manpages also seem to forget the obvious sometimes.  I started
> > > > playing with crontab recently.  To edit a user's crontab, you have
to
> > use
> > > > invoke the command
> > > >
> > > > # crontab -u username -e
> > > >
> > > > and do this as root.  The manpage doesn't mention this anywhere; I
got
> > > > this info from the mailing list archives.
> > > >
> > > > I spent four days setting up userland ppp.  Mostly because my
machine's
> > > > BIOS was incorrectly setting the speed for the serial port that the
> > > > modem uses.  The instructions were great, but they covered some
hundred
> > > > pages (I cheated and printed them out with the MS Windows machine at
> > > > work) - ppp manpage, pendantic ppp primer, example ppp.conf file,
etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have given up on my printer.  I have noticed that over the six
months
> > of
> > > > not being able to print that my piles of paper cluttering my home
have
> > > > just about disappeared.  I have decided to go 'paperless' at home,
with
> > > > the exception of my weekly grocery list.  So some good has come out
of
> > not
> > > > being able to learn how to setup something for my FreeBSD machine.
:)
> > > >
> > > > Back to troubleshooting crontab and my disapearing mail...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Doug Young wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hear hear !!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > All those experts out there please take notice
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone new to a subject doesn't need to know about all the bells
&
> > > > > whistles, provision of information suitable for an expert will
only
> > confuse
> > > > > them further.
> > > > > I believe that documentation should be prepared by the most junior
> > person
> > > > > available and not some geek with 458 years experience .... at
least
> > then it
> > > > > will probably contain ALL the necessary steps.
> > > > >
> > > > > The basics of unix are for the most part extremely simple ... its
only
> > the
> > > > > documentation that makes it complicated. I've been working on an
entry
> > level
> > > > > install / configure text for members of our non-profit internet
access
> > > > > group, and in its basic text  form this reduces the information
needed
> > to
> > > > > some 7 pages of A4.
> > > > > I'm now putting together a picturebook format so that its even
more
> > explicit
> > > > > :)
> > > > > The document is intended to allow a total newbie with no prior
> > experience of
> > > > > unix / linux / etc to install FreeBSD & configure it as a gateway,
> > with
> > > > > sendmail, cuciopop, ppp, apache all working with no aggro in only
an
> > hour or
> > > > > two.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "m l mack" <mlmack@speakeasy.org>
> > > > > To: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:34 AM
> > > > > Subject: newbies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Sirs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As one who doesn't know Unix from Eunuchs, I beg you to consider
> > this
> > > > > > teaching technique. Once, instruction books started out by
walking
> > you
> > > > > > through a number of everyday tasks you were going to have to
master.
> > It
> > > > > > wasn't until you got the basics down, that theory and structure
were
> > > > > > introduced. These days theory always comes first which often
leaves
> > the
> > > > > > truly ignorant more lost than they were to begin with. If
someone
> > came out
> > > > > > with an old fashioned manual, I might be able to learn this.
Please
> > help
> > > > > me
> > > > > > get away from Windows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > m l mack
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > **********************************************************************
> > >
> > > Kevin McCarty
> > > Networking
> > > Postmaster
> > > Adjunct: Workstation Architecture
> > >
> > > The Sage Colleges
> > > 518 244 2491
> > >
> > > mccark@sage.edu
> > > 2A
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> > >
> > >        The present is the only thing of which a person can be
deprived.
> > > - Marcus Aurelius
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> **********************************************************************
>
> Kevin McCarty
> Networking
> Postmaster
> Adjunct: Workstation Architecture
>
> The Sage Colleges
> 518 244 2491
>
> mccark@sage.edu
> 2A
> **********************************************************************
>
>        The present is the only thing of which a person can be deprived.
> - Marcus Aurelius
>
>



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