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Date:      Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:53:36 -0600
From:      Jim Thompson <jim@netgate.com>
To:        Martin Hanson <greencoppermine@yandex.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-pf@freebsd.org" <freebsd-pf@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FOLLOW-UP
Message-ID:  <A005AA11-87FB-4119-932F-1EF728D55FB6@netgate.com>
In-Reply-To: <363021417833295@web21g.yandex.ru>
References:  <363021417833295@web21g.yandex.ru>

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It's strange how you assume that no bugs can be fixed outside the openbsd tr=
ee.=20

I'd say more, but it would be flaming, or flame bait.=20

Jim

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Martin Hanson <greencoppermine@yandex.com> wro=
te:
>=20
> Okay, this part "Has any important bugs been fixed in PF on OpenBSD
> since the current port in FreeBSD that actually makes the current PF in
> FreeBSD "dangerous" to run with?" was actually a really stupid question!
>=20
> The..
>=20
> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/vendor-sys/pf/4.5.002/?view=3Dlog
>=20
> .. shows that the last import was for tag 4.5.002 5 years and 3 month
> ago!
>=20
> Going back to that time in the OpenBSD CVS log and then scrolling up
> until present day shows quite a bunch of REALLY important fixes! I am
> NOT talking about the changes made by the OpenBSD guys, just bug and
> error fixes!
>=20
> http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/pf.c
>=20
> Problems that can cause kernel crashes, fixes for PF crashing faults,
> out-of-memory errors, leak of states, and a whole lot of other
> important stuff.
>=20
> Nobody in their right mind would run the current version of PF on
> FreeBSD!
>=20
> I am sorry, but how can someone be so stupid as to get a whole bunch of
> new features into a product that seriously needs upgrading first!?
>=20
> Whats going on FreeBSD? You used to be all about quality, now you're
> all about "bleeding edge features" and don't give a s*** about the rest?
>=20
> Linux can get away with that crap ONLY because such a huge bunch of
> people and organisations are running and supporting it, they have a LOT
> of people developing stuff and fixing stuff really quick, FreeBSD
> haven't got that user base!
>=20
> It needs to be about quality over features! Like in the good old 4.x
> and 5.x days!
>=20
> Martin
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