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Date:      Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:11:59 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Improving /etc/motd and ANSI
Message-ID:  <1410192719.1150.403.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1409080811160.43515@wonkity.com>
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On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 09:16 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> 
> > Also, we should reference a url for questions or problems, and not
> > include questions@ in the motd...  The url can better include
> > information, and other places to find help, like for forums..
> ...
> > P.S. I've always been confused what command means.. Does it mean the
> > program, or the program w/ the arguments?
> 
> Could be either, it's context-sensitive, but point taken.
> 
> New whitespace version:
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/motd/motd.whitespace-url
> 
> This one includes the URL rather than questions@, includes the forum 
> URL, and removes "command".

This is supposedly for low-information users, yet it uses the
quintessential unix-geek-shorthand "hier(7)" to reference a manpage.
Even if they take the advice of consulting 'man man' there's nothing in
there that helps a newbie decode 'hier(7)'.  Since there's only one hier
topic system wide, maybe we should point them directly to the command
'man hier'.

(Aside... I've been working with freebsd since 1996, and I only
discovered the existance of hier(7) a couple years ago.  I guess that's
because 'rm /etc/motd' is one of the first things I do on a new system.)

-- Ian





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