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Date:      Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:01:07 -0400
From:      Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU>
To:        Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists_nada@tx.rr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
Message-ID:  <1212861667.94878.17.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu>
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On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 23:37 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> My point still stands.  I think the behavior of the developers on the=20
> lists should be of as high a quality as the work they do on the OS (which=
,=20
> as I have stated, is first rate.)  Descending to the levels that some hav=
e=20
> (some of which you quote here) reflects poorly on the OS and its=20
> developers.

I can empathize somewhat with your sentiment.  But at the same time I
can see where what you are criticizing comes from.

As others have said Free Software Projects function as communities.
Look around your (real) community.  I'm guessing you'll see all sorts of
different personalities.  And those personalities are often times not
shy about speaking their views.

Now, factor that in with the following analogy.  We've all seen scenes
on TV shows or in movies where a customer sends a dish back to the
kitchen via the waiter complaining about something.  The chef proceeds
to pick up a meat cleaver and head towards the door, only to be stopped
by the waiter.  Sometimes on the mailing lists you'll see the reaction
of the chef, there is no waiter to stop him/her.

That's just the nature of the community structure surrounding Open
Source Projects and it's not unique to FreeBSD.  Corporations you can
expect to be held to higher standards, or more specifically held to
standards that you would hold all corporations to.  When on the mailing
lists you can't expect "corporate standards", what you'll get is
"community standards".

--=20
                                                Ken Smith
- From there to here, from here to      |       kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu
  there, funny things are everywhere.   |
                      - Theodore Geisel |

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