Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:05:19 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/net rtsock.c
Message-ID:  <20040823180519.GC21483@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040822103602.5376G-100000@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <4128673E.F68B68EE@freebsd.org> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040822103602.5376G-100000@fledge.watson.org>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help

--Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 10:51:13AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004, Andre Oppermann wrote:
>=20
> > >   Allow the size of the routing socket netisr queue to be configured =
using
> > >   the tunable or sysctl 'net.route.netisr_maxqlen'.  Default the maxi=
mum
> > >   depth to 256 rather than IFQ_MAXLEN due to the downsides of dropping
> > >   routing messages.
> > >=20
> > >   MT5 candidate.
> > >=20
> > >   Discussed with: mdodd, mlaier, Vincent Jardin <jardin at 6wind.com>
> >=20
> > A rtmessage should never ever be dropped.  That would wedge the
> > synchronized state of any userland routing daemons.=20
>=20
> That as may be, but we've always been able to drop them when the routing
> socket socket buffers fill, or when are unable to allocate an mbuf due to
> low memory, as we're often unable to block when such a message is
> generated.  Inserting a netisr dispatch inserted a new bounded length
> queue introduced another possible source of loss when the queue overflows.
> I chatted with Bruce Simpson about this, and he observed that the way
> routing daemons may/do address some of the potential loss is to set the
> socket buffer receive size higher; this is not fail safe, however.  I
> asked the submitter of the issue what the highest watermark level for
> socket buffers we'd seen in practice was, but I have not seen a response
> to that.  He suggested making the netisr queue depth for the routing
> socket to be unlimited; I made it configurable but set what I think is a
> fairly high default.  Do you have any measurement of how deep that socket
> buffer gets in practice on high volume routers?=20

It might be useful to add a RTM_FOOBAR (or similar :-) message to send
when we are forced to drop a message.  It's impossiable to be 100%
certain we will never drop a message so having a mechanism to indicate
that things have gone wrong could be useful.

-- Brooks

--=20
Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE.
PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529  9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4

--Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature
Content-Disposition: inline

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFBKjHeXY6L6fI4GtQRAsO7AJ9sm1DsQc8QnTmA3puzBz5aXAYZpQCeJOBe
+oICw6nL0ldaIsxlTPzj5ic=
=mKij
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv--



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20040823180519.GC21483>