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Date:      Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:05:53 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org>
To:        Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Remove debug echo
Message-ID:  <20111202020553.GA4444@dragon.NUXI.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAGH67wT18DLu%2BOhOOw-Pjyq9az0pWD39y4nuDY-nDyPOKbmd8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201111291607.26546.jhb@freebsd.org> <A6C0CFB3-A657-41AA-8A2E-172D95BD0F98@bsdimp.com> <20111201002515.GA50028@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wQFecLHFsANmWFSr6e%2B99P1QY9erNzoXFmJG40RntFazQ@mail.gmail.com> <20111201014349.GA61475@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wT18DLu%2BOhOOw-Pjyq9az0pWD39y4nuDY-nDyPOKbmd8Q@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 05:59:33PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > On Wed Nov 30 11, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Alexander Best <arundel@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>     pmake sucks as far as diagnostic output is concerned when compared
> >> with gmake. I'd rather not have to fish through with -j1 (if I'm lucky
> >> and it's not a race) to determine what directory created the "Error
> >> Code" output. With the printouts discussed here, at least you have a
> >> chance at determining what the issue was.
> >>     Maybe it's just me, but I like noisy builds -- otherwise the
> >> amount of time I have to spend root-causing the issue becomes
> >> expensive.
[...]
> Otherwise diagnosing issues becomes a PITA with -j > 1 (with pmake I
> have to start using some serious grep'ing, and if I'm lucky I can find
> the source of error).

Well its a PITA mostly because we disabled Pmake's -j "job-markers" back
in 1998 (r41151).  If you build with 'make -v -j>1' you get much more
debugable output.

bmake (NetBSD's make) is even nicer in this regard.
I was *amazed* when I joined $WORK and a '-j16' build was debugable.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)



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