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Date:      Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:40:10 -0200
From:      Chiron IO <io.chir0n@gmail.com>
To:        Samuel J. Greear <sjg@evilcode.net>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server
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http://wiki.freebsd.org/DefaultDebuggingKnobs

I am not aware of any linux distribution that comes with debug enabled =
by default, even on RC releases.

It seems that this approach (debug by default) is welcome to help solve =
problems that might appear,  but I would be happy if these benchmarks =
were made without such config (debug) enabled.

On 20/12/2011, at 17:09, Samuel J. Greear wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Chiron IO <io.chir0n@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Guys,
>=20
> I have a question about these benchmarks.
>=20
> Why worry about that if the CURRENT comes with debug enabled by =
default?
>=20
> =
http://joaobarros.blogspot.com/2005/07/freebsd-how-to-turn-off-debug-optio=
ns.html
>=20
>=20
>=20
> In the real world problems happen and someone has to be able to, in =
some fashion, identify and resolve those problems. As such, shipping =
FreeBSD releases with INVARIANTS disabled is a mistake and any =
benchmarks done without INVARIANTS enabled will fail to reflect most =
reasonable real world use-cases.
>=20
> Although these benchmarks cannot stand on their own merits for many =
reasons, I do not see how any benchmark is automatically invalidated by =
using the default development configuration.
>=20
> Sam




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