Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:32:10 -0900 From: Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? Message-ID: <200903030832.10672.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <49ab13fb.s7xXxGuXI7v/zFQ3%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> <200902282359.24584.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ab13fb.s7xXxGuXI7v/zFQ3%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
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On Sunday 01 March 2009 14:02:19 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote:
> > > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works
> > > on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such
> > > am application available?
> >
> > Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what
> > software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the
> > INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers.
>
> ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared
> to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place.
It is a stretch in practice. The INDEX is based on /usr/ports, which is ahead
of the packages that are actually compiled on the buildservers.
> portupgrade -PP manages somehow.
Not somehow, but because it works with /usr/ports. Try renaming your ports
directory and see how that goes. Also, -PP wastes a lot of bandwidth. Just
look at the ammount of packages that are downloaded which aren't actually
installed, because the version is older or equal then installed.
> BTW, the OP may not realize that
> "the package system" is a subset of "the port system", rather than
> an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system.
It's an alternative way to install the same software. One can in fact use
packages without having /usr/ports present at all. I'm using my own tools,
using a custom INDEX format on the build server. But there's still too many
raw edges that I'd like the tools released into the wild.
--
Mel
Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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