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Date:      Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:46:12 +0000
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>, Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: r228700 can't dhclient em0
Message-ID:  <5C93DF5B-B722-4FAF-8AD3-7918974C9A12@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20111220193516.GE70684@glebius.int.ru>
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On 20. Dec 2011, at 19:35 , Gleb Smirnoff wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 01:30:34PM -0600, Brooks Davis wrote:
> B> I also worry about the problem that once you've installed world =
there is
> B> no easy way back.
>=20
> When working on the patch for last months I did numerous 'make =
installkernel
> installworld' switching between a patched sources and unpatched, and =
everything
> goes fine.

Yeah for the time being but we are talking about a 4-5 year timeframe.


> B> If we can identify all the changed interfaces and we can teach =
9-STABLE
> B> to deal with them then this change is probably OK and we just need =
to
> B> do the appropriate libc and ifconfig spackling and merge it.  We =
can't
> B> let this slide too long though because the current state requires =
an
> B> installkernel+installworld for all intents and purposes and that =
means
> B> that if the kernel is broken you are dead in the water.
> B>=20
> B> I agree we could really use some sort of way forward that increases =
our
> B> abilty to make these sorts of changes.
>=20
> Why 9-STABLE? This change isn't going to be merged.

Because we'd need to make sure that "fixes" go backward to work with the
new stuff for the update path - the "fixes", not your change.

/bz

--=20
Bjoern A. Zeeb                                 You have to have visions!
         Stop bit received. Insert coin for new address family.




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