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Date:      Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:25:48 -0800
From:      Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net>
To:        Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
Cc:        Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu>, freebsd-stable Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Can I get a committer to mark this bug as blocking 6.4-RELEASE ?
Message-ID:  <4934484C.7060106@delphij.net>
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Jo Rhett wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Ken Smith wrote:
>> Both John and Xin Li have chimed in on the two threads I've seen that
>> are related to this specific topic.  John diagnosed it as a issue with
>> the BIOS.  That's what makes it a nebulous problem.  When working on
>> those sorts of things most people liken it to "Whack-a-mole".
> 
> Diagnosed without testing.  John never asked for any more information
> than the page fault description from me.  When I asked what else to test
> and offered to supply systems for testing he stopped responding.  Xin Li
> proposed a work-around that would have castrated the systems.  It might
> work, but it wasn't a useful workaround so I deferred testing and
> focused on trying to get someone to address the real problem.

What I proposed is, to *narrow down* the problem so we can diagnose
further, since nobody has idea at the moment about how the problem was,
we do need to have further information, or, to get the whole 6.3->6.4
diff reviewed, which is (in my opinion) not an optimal use of
developers' time.

Cheers,
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Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net>	http://www.delphij.net/
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