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Date:      Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0400
From:      Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: interesting quote from http://cnls.lanl.gov/avalon/FAQ.html#A1end
Message-ID:  <19981009183003.A16271@panix.com>
In-Reply-To: <199810092134.OAA27092@usr01.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:34:21PM %2B0000
References:  <19981009151839.A6704@panix.com> <199810092134.OAA27092@usr01.primenet.com>

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On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:34:21PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Being able to write a boot loader is *not* the issue.
> > 
> > The fact that the ARC or AlphaBIos console doesn't include PALcode that's
> > UNIX-friendly is the issue.  The SRM console image includes VMS and OSF/1
> > PALcode; NetBSd uses the OSF/1 PALcode.  The ARC console includes Windows NT
> > PALcode; Linux hacks around this by including its own PALcode in MILO.
> 
> Isn't this more of a case of us running a UNIX that isn't ARC PALcode
> friendly?
> 
> I realize that this would require some substantial code changes to
> things like the platform specific VM code; but the payback is the
> ability to run on all the Alpha hardware out there.

With a crippled VM system that couldn't use the whole 64 bits of address
space, among other miscellaneous ways to lose, at least last time I checked.

That was quite a while ago, however.  Maybe they've stopped trying quite so
hard to lose in recent implementations.

Thor

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