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Date:      Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:11:39 +0200
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= <sos@DeepCore.dk>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Arne_=5C=22W=F6rner=5C=22=22?= <arne_woerner@yahoo.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Multimedia <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Followup to DVD Burning question
Message-ID:  <425D0C7B.5070707@DeepCore.dk>
In-Reply-To: <20050413115404.34207.qmail@web41203.mail.yahoo.com>
References:  <20050413115404.34207.qmail@web41203.mail.yahoo.com>

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Arne Wörner wrote:
> --- Søren Schmidt <sos@DeepCore.dk> wrote:
> 
>>Arne Wörner wrote:
>>
>>>That's how I do backups with a DVD-RW:
>>>  tar cf - ... | dd of=/dev/acd0 obs=32k conv=osync
>>>
>>>Unluckily my DVD-RW's cannot be used for UFS with my
>>>burner... I do not know why.
>>
>>DVD-RW doesn't quite cut it for UFS, you need DVD+RW media for
>>that.
>>
> 
> Why? I can read and write the same block of a DVD-RW round robin.
> I mean:
> 
>>dd if=a of=/dev/acd0 bs=32k count=1 oseek=10
>>dd if=/dev/acd0 of= /dev/null bs=32k count=1 iseek=10
>>dd if=b of=/dev/acd0 bs=32k count=1 oseek=10
>>dd if=/dev/acd0 of= /dev/null bs=32k count=1 iseek=10
>>dd if=c of=/dev/acd0 bs=32k count=1 oseek=10
>>dd if=/dev/acd0 of= /dev/null bs=32k count=1 iseek=10
> 
> ...
> This looks just like a hard disc to me...

I forgot the exact details, but the DVD-RW media (or rather the DVD-RW 
method of accessing RW media) doesn't allow for non 32K transfers, 
whereas the DVD+RW method does read-modify-write behind the scene to get 
it to work seamlessly. I guess this could be worked around in the burner 
firmware but that would probably offend the DVD consortium ;)

-- 

-Søren




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