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Date:      Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:47:41 -0600
From:      Adam Maloney <adamm@sihope.com>
To:        Vahric MUHTARYAN <vahric@doruk.net.tr>
Cc:        Kurt Jaeger <lists@complx.LF.net>
Subject:   Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method
Message-ID:  <1071006459.15221.223.camel@unixws1>
In-Reply-To: <04a601c3be9c$e79bf840$019c9752@xp>
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On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:39, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> Thank I think I will use your method :)) and you method is everyones methode
> .... :)))))

That's been our experience too - most everyone I talk to rebuilds
everything from source to upgrade.

> and one more question I'm linux admin I can say more Redhat Admin :) We have
> Redhat 7.2 , 7.3 , 8.0 and 9.0 server but I did not think to update or
> promode any server  to new version  Do you alwyas update freebsd's when new
> stable version released  ? like 4.9 to 5.2

I usually only update for security reasons, and then only on machines
that are affected.  I've never run into a situation where I've needed
some new feature/bugfix in the latest -stable, other than for security.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kurt Jaeger" <lists@complx.LF.net>
> To: <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method
> 
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?!
> >
> > Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it.
> >
> > > How long does it take to complate all process ?!
> >
> > For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of
> > person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling).
> >
> > > You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup)  / make world process at
> this
> > > moment server can response to web clients ?!
> >
> > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster)
> > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of
> > the time, so we do it in multiuser.
> >
> > The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and
> > we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers.
> >
> > > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or
> it's
> > > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD
> >
> > Good question 8-)
> >
> > > and do you test those process on other machine before apply those
> patches to
> > > your production server ?!
> >
> > Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers
> > (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers.
> >
> > --
> > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger                                  17 years to
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