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Date:      Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:44:22 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Greg Work <Greg@FatCanary.com.au>
Cc:        Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: AMD K6-2 / 550
Message-ID:  <20000702114422.Q18213@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au>
References:  <200006280311.e5S3BWb28882@lerami.lerctr.org> <003d01bfe3af$3c72c640$0200a8c0@gwork.org.au>

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On Sunday,  2 July 2000 at  8:23:55 +0930, Greg Work wrote:
> On  Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:41 PM, "Larry Rosenman" <ler@lerctr.org> wrote:
>> Well, I'm back...
>>    Put the AMD K6-2/550 on a ATX board (Shuttle HOT-597), and the
>> 128MB memory.
>>
>> This power supply supposedly has enough beef to run the K6.
>>
>> Still have a problem with make world.
>>
>> HOWEVER, here is the strange part, if I turn SOFTUPDATES on, we can
>> make worlds all day long with out an error.
>>
>> Anyone got a good explanation for this?
>>
>> Also, the SCSI controller is a AHA-2940, with 1.11 firmware, if
>> that makes a difference.
>
> Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem?
>
> ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with
> SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly.  I know its not the memory - i have
> been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat.

You mean it never discovered a problem?  What software were you
running?

> The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2
> days no problems.  Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's
> to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug
> them :(

If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except
that things will be different each time.

I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in
fact due to flaky hardware.  Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I
have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it
helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-).

Greg
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