Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:54:56 -0500 From: mome-rath <momeraths@rcn.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010624005456.A23293@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste>; from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net on Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM %2B0200 References: <JBEOKPCEMKJLMJAKBECCGENKDBAA.jwatkins@firstplan.com><15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org><4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste>
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On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote: <snip> > > You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you > > are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable. > > [...] > > I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite > positive. I installed FreeBSD 4.2-Release with the boot floppies and a <snip> > openssh clients like the 2.9pl1 in Linux Mandrake) doing a > Release-2-Stable & and a Stable-2-Stable upgrade from source has been a > breeze, thanks to the guidance of /usr/src/UPDATING and the FreeBSD > Handbook (and the FAQ for explaining kern_securelevel and it's impact on > file flags). All this updating from source at least never left me without > a root filesystem when booting a new kernel (as did Linux Mandrake 7.2 I've never had a problem tracking and building stable resulting in an unbootable or generally unusable system. There was the one and only time I tried making installworld in the recommended way, via single-user init level and the system spontaneously rebooted. But, otherwise, no problems at all. Even for a period of time when I was cvsuping and making the world every day... which ended immediately after I got that month's electricity bill. Good god damn, I'm obscenely lucky, aren't I. Wait a minute... I SEE NO SUPER MODEL SEX KITTEN ON MY BED!@#$ It must be FreeBSD, not my luck. <snip> > kernel). IMHO, the FreeBSD stable sourcetree and also the ports & packages > collection are in such a good shape that they don't need to fear any > comparison with rpm or deb based Linux distributions. Hey, even Windows NT When a port doesn't work for me, I cvsup the ports tree and it's fixed or someone on stable has said they're fixing the problem presently and it's fine the next day. It's all a wonderful dream. Better than kittens or ice cream or puppies or rainbows. > & 2000 boxen have been reported to break after installing a Service Pack, > after all. Windows service packs are on the same level as medieval alchemy. 600 years from now, science will find a way to make windows secure and stable. Not only that, but cloning will be perfected and posterity won't be left with the horrible prospect of a world without Carrot Top and Rob Schneider. <snip> -- disclaimer: vodka. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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