Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:30:50 -0700 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: jonathan michaels <jlm@caamora.com.au> Cc: David Malone <dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie>, "Thomas E. Zander" <riggs@rrr.de>, stable@freebsd.org, Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Boot manager beep Message-ID: <439A923A.3040205@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <20051210081717.61326@caamora.com.au> References: <20051209093610.GR898@marvin.riggiland.au> <4399997D.7010304@samsco.org> <20051209154056.GA21926@freebie.xs4all.nl> <4399A612.1030103@samsco.org> <20051209160006.GA53492@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20051209163843.GS898@marvin.riggiland.au> <20051210081717.61326@caamora.com.au>
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jonathan michaels wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:38:43PM +0100, Thomas E. Zander wrote: > >>On Fri, 09. Dec 2005, at 16:00 +0000, David Malone wrote >>according to [Re: Boot manager beep]: >> >>>On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:43:14AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: >>> >>> >>>>It is highly irritating for everyone else, though. >>> >>>Not quite everyone - if I'm working on a few machines I find it >>>useful to know when a particular machine has reached the boot stage, >>>so I can tell it to go into single user mode. It is particularly >>>useful on machines where the BIOS tages ages to do its stuff. >> >>Probably it isn't even a real problem on most boxes. Usually standard >>desktops and servers (maybe) have their pc speaker which is set to a >>reasonable volume at boot time. I never found this beep annoying in my >>servers. Just came across it when I had to reinstall my notebook >>because of a hard drive crash and 6.0 installed this beeping boot >>loader. So probably as Scott pointed out, it might be best to let the >>user choose a quiet loader as an option. >>Naturally, boot0 is a tiny program, it shouldn't be a problem to build >>a boot0nobeep as well and install one of them depending on settings, >>maybe even early during sysinstall ?! > > > yes, that sounds reasonable to me .. i'm one of those sightless ones > who caused the irritation for mr long. may i suggest that the default > situation be set to beep: ON and if teh enduser requires or need the > beep: OFF version then they are left to make the adjustments as thier > own exercise. i like the idea about setting a bit in the /dev/conf > file, ummm something like that my memory isnt that good this morning. > > it is most difficult trying to work out how and where to make changes > when being able to see teh scree becomes a personal issue .. every bit > helps. > > sorry for the intrusion . this be one of those items that needs some > vocalisation from those it genuinely affects and for whom it is not a > meer cosmetic annoyance. > > regards and apologies > > jonathan > I have one comment on this. All I did was suggest that the code be made conditional. I did not take a stand on whether it should default to being enabled or not. And yes, the beep is irritating when I'm trying to do development on a plane or other confined public spaces. Scott
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