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Date:      Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:31 -0700
From:      Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
To:        Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
Cc:        Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org>, pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mailwrapper
Message-ID:  <2dadf7ac48cb96fc3d503fcf45ca8fd0@bsdforge.com>
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On 2024-04-15 14:08, Roger Marquis wrote:
>> i am working on a patch for mailwrapper, which i'd like to move from
>> FreeBSD-utilities to its own package.
> 
...
> 
> Please don't, however, link anything to sendmail.  Even it's author says
> sendmail should be deprecated.  Despite the many hours some of us have
> put into sendmail.cf customizations this software is long past its
> effective deprecation date.
Please. Can we not turn this into a MTA v. MTA discussion?
Mailwrapper should handle all the MTAs supported by FreeBSD. Shouldn't
it? That's what it's used for. Right? :)

--Chris
> 
> Roger Marquis
> 
> 
>> however i'm a little stymied by usr.sbin/mailwrapper/Makefile[0], which
>> seems to do a few fairly odd things for the benefit of src users, such as
>> linking mailwrapper to either dma or sendmail if mailwrapper itself isn't
>> built.
>> 
>> i'd like to significantly simplify the logic here so that if mailwrapper is
>> enabled (${MK_MAILWRAPPER} == yes), it's always installed in the usual
>> place, and doesn't pretend to be dma or sendmail, and there is no special
>> handling depending on the value of ${MK_SENDMAIL} and ${MK_DMAGENT}.
>> 
>> this might require some changes to either sendmail or dma (which of course
>> i'd test before submitting anything), but in principle, does this sound
>> like a reasonable idea?
>> 
>> i am concious that many/most people don't use pkgbase yet and we shouldn't
>> break things for them, but this seems like an ideal to time to clean up
>> some of this legacy stuff.
>> 
>> [0] https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/mailwrapper/Makefile
>> 


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