Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 14:58:51 +0100 From: Mohammad Noureldin <mohammad@thelightbird.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <CAAQ96Dyruh2PXq-6GJNwD%2BcvwKNqERn%2B40KoLxo7gQQn%2B0eisw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAM8r67DKMc73Wn%2BQy8m2kPAHn%2B2-=ALKRNQDvuxCqFAPFrqZiQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <20210319101040.00005c35@seibercom.net> <CA%2BD9QhsjLtVui6exPDyG2CO5H8X-=YckFjCehHusG7eH_kk2sg@mail.gmail.com> <6054BE1B.50706@gmail.com> <20210319130249.000042a1@seibercom.net> <5a8cf0be-646a-a433-2428-9700a47c1bf0@att.net> <20210319140448.00007521@seibercom.net> <c9ca4862-199a-5c6b-1282-18cc32d3486f@johnea.net> <20210319213214.4f8ddf55@archlinux> <CAGBxaXnwqXMBjp0i6Qd6SzbjCq13wFPOo1mjMUucNKw%2BPC1KFw@mail.gmail.com> <20210320063427.000040f5@seibercom.net> <CAM8r67DKMc73Wn%2BQy8m2kPAHn%2B2-=ALKRNQDvuxCqFAPFrqZiQ@mail.gmail.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
Hi Tomasz, Well said! On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 14:21 Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 11:35 Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote: > > > I never said I could not compile a new kernel, I said I could not > > install the OS. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the installation > > of the OS precede the creation of a new kernel? Furthermore, the > > screen just rolls away filling up with the error message ad infinitum. > > > > By the way, as I understand it, creating a custom kernel nullifies the > > use of "freebsd update". Wow, things just keep getting better & better. > > > > What I cannot understand is that FreeBSD knows it has a problem, one > > not shared by any other OS as far as I have been able to ascertain, > > and I have done a lot of research, and they refuse to fix it. The > > problem did not exist before version 12.x, so it is not like they never > > were able to get it right. > > > > -- > > Jerry > > > > Hey Jerry :-) > > Please just rebuild and install new kernel, at least to see if that fixes > your problem :-) > > This is a standard procedure when you find a problem, it seems identified, > workaround seems available, a least try if that works for you :-) > > I also use custom compliled kernel to get my Touchpad working on a > non-standard configuration. Until fix is ready and does not break > configuration for others I need to work that way because this is a problem > with _my_setup_. It seems that your problem seems similar. > > Look on the other hand you are helping others not to have this problem in > future.. developers are going through this way everyday and we usually have > broken or incomplete setup just to help others not to have such problems. > With new hardware showing up faster and faster, using their own standards, > or enforcing linux like solutions thing are and will get even worse. This > is not really the issue with FreeBSD, it only gets impacted by this > "bleeding edge" approach around :-) > > Because of drivers I have chosen Linux over FreeBSD around 1999 on my first > desktop PC. Then when Linux kernel api started changing with every minor > release, and when the stable USB stack was created by HPS, I have abandoned > Linux for good and FreeBSD is my ultimate OS of the choice. I even prefer > FreeBSD over OSX/macOS. The problem of quickly changing things and breaking > compatibility is the Linux by design. You will find many more problems like > this over there. We are experiencing this kind of issues here because world > has changed that way unfortunately. > > I can see three effective solutions here: > 1. Use Alt+F2 to switch away from terminal flood and recompile your kernel. > 2. Maybe XHCI/USB3.0 controller can/could be disabled at runtime in > bootloader so it wont be active and the workaround can be ready with no > kernel recompile. > 3. Provide a hardware and development fee for a person that is willing to > fix the problem for you. This will cost time and money but there is a > chance that you will get the fix one day just using freebsd-update :-) > > Free Softwate is free to use, but is really cost developers life time and > all other technical resources and experiences. Just imagine how many > problems of this kind developers have everyday. Most of them work for free > in their free time, but they also need to pay the bills. > > Best regards :-) > Tomek > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?CAAQ96Dyruh2PXq-6GJNwD%2BcvwKNqERn%2B40KoLxo7gQQn%2B0eisw>