Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:16:32 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lkg0JvQsNC60YLQsNC90L7Qsg==?= <root1101@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program Message-ID: <4FE24BC0.3020909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120620211417.GC26703@hemlock.hydra> References: <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206191952250.8234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <854D02B1-CA89-4F5E-8773-DB05F2868D74@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206200618290.46371@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <op.wf7ero1k34t2sn@tech304> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201642480.1476@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <op.wf7h1df334t2sn@tech304> <4FE1FD18.7010101@gmail.com> <20120620211417.GC26703@hemlock.hydra>
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21.06.2012 01:14, Chad Perrin пишет: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 08:40:56PM +0400, Евгений Лактанов wrote: >> 20.06.2012 18:47, Mark Felder пишет: >>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:43:14 -0500, Wojciech Puchar >>> <email address elided for purposes of courtesy> wrote: >>>> [attribution lost by Wojciech Puchar and I'm too lazy to check] >>>>> Why not make FreeBSD better for everyone by cooperating with the >>>>> CLANG project? >>>> because we already have great compiler - GCC. In spite of using GPL >>>> licence. >>> GCC performs well, but it is a very messy undocumented codebase which >>> makes maintaining it a nightmare. Just ask Google -- you'll find many >>> others saying the same thing. It would take MORE work to get FreeBSD >>> devs up to speed on the GCC codebase to add the features we want than >>> it is to cooperate with the CLANG community and help them make their >>> compiler better than GCC in every test case. >> It is the classic developer/user argument. It is also stupid. The user >> side simply doesn't have the same needs, it can't understand how >> freaking hard it is sometimes to debug a large and complex program in a >> badly documented environment or worse with undocumented features. If it >> works faster ergo it is better - that is the only criteria to really >> have a meaning to a user. > It's bikeshed painting. Someone who doesn't understand the many factors > that apply, and doesn't even *want* to know, picks one thing he thinks he > understands and argues about it in an attempt to make the entire project > change course. > > Well, dammit, I *like* blue, and he can take his bucket of red paint home > with him to paint his *own* bikeshed. > Haven't heard it described like this, but appropriate. Also the Danth's law applies always)
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