Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:02:19 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD X11 <x11@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Ars Technica article Message-ID: <6c7f7bf1-4a2d-777d-333f-778a6535833f@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqfkVGDGssHC%2Bts6df7QeiCsA68CQnjOAAXdH2JsDMTaQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <3049612.rJTJeGpjCJ@saskatoon.bionicmutton.org> <20200410001102.GB23747@lonesome.com> <4e3bf6be-aecf-7c62-df98-1cc4b01b8db9@gmail.com> <qjPID4gTE2NvAVjSZKmSBSLDOK7gxaJbnPw46O71vKnmV0b7uoMZ7xTv3RI30bRpPqphZAXTHd3r3RYSQ8UGaRVO45afo-EcYB34INKVAM8=@protonmail.ch> <43f83193-e495-2bf2-f85d-91aa0b36c1a0@gmail.com> <slUQwwm1giIIEaqmUKBQ1G5UIlVSvzfWkk3vZm-dBYNRA-wng7tDluv_Es3eOiaNYDE9yNtKFfd-2iOEozSGK1JNIjFbqCXV1a1sgkQ1sHE=@protonmail.ch> <0e205fe8-fbc6-5d91-99b0-1bd4870b8a5d@gmail.com> <CAGwOe2ZHZFhVwSvjk7JDe0szY-1oZH_HvDhMqp-zXXV9%2BePtHg@mail.gmail.com> <d263368c-5dcc-61c2-9c77-3d59c5493182@gmail.com> <536A0D50-4119-4C28-9202-28622152B203@freebsd.org> <20200413052406.GA90880@FreeBSD.org> <CANCZdfqfkVGDGssHC%2Bts6df7QeiCsA68CQnjOAAXdH2JsDMTaQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2020-04-13 09:11, Warner Losh wrote: First off: I'm not trying to rant and/or discuss the direction the project is taking. I'll avoid being dragged into it. > Let me be blunt: it's my goal to remove drm-legacy-kmod as quickly as > possible. Is it working for anyone? If not, then you might as well go ahead. Personally I've gone back to X 1.19, more or less maintaining my own copy of the old ports. (I know this is not "a good thing", but I wouldn't be here writing this, otherwise). > People that have broken hardware need to step up and provide > fixes for that old hardware in the drm-kmod context I'd gladly do this. I just don't have the expertise, since I know almost nothing on X internals. If someone could provide some pointers to documentation, I'd be glad about it. > or buy new hardware. That's something I might consider too in a short future. However, I find it hard to choose: I'm not sure some hardware will work until I try it. I understand the manufacturers are working hard to confuse things with with their namings, but I also find it hard to find fresh, coherent informations on the FreeBSD side. bye & Thanks av.
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