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Date:      Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:54:21 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 release on September 25th
Message-ID:  <39C4244D.376AF636@gorean.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009161735400.61017-100000@freefall.freebsd.org> <v04210101b5e9c96fb10c@[128.113.24.47]>

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Garance A Drosihn wrote:

> You left out the exact steps on how someone who does not have
> commit privs is supposed to "get their patch applied".  

> After spending ten times more effort trying to get someone to
> apply the patch than was originally spent MAKING the patch,
> they give up.
> 
> A release is announced.  They get a bit excited, and hope once
> again to get someone interested.  

	Having been, and to a great extent still being part of the model that
Garance is describing, I have to say that this is an excellent
description. Since committers get into a "let's slap it in now so that
it gets there in time for the release" mood, asking for attention to
PR's when releases are announced is not totally unreasonable. 

	Since I've been through it often enough now, I tend to develop a much
more long term approach to my PR's and other suggestions. However, as
much as I know that Kris was correct in his post, having intimate
experience with the non-committer perspective I can empathize with it. 

Doug
-- 
        "The dead cannot be seduced."
		- Kai, "Lexx"

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