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Date:      Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:48:45 -0800
From:      Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: if_flags usage etc.
Message-ID:  <20060127104845.D46957@xorpc.icir.org>
In-Reply-To: <43DA699E.8030803@elischer.org>; from julian@elischer.org on Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:42:38AM -0800
References:  <20060124075437.B67285@xorpc.icir.org> <20060126.210322.56187611.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060126225244.B37507@xorpc.icir.org> <20060127.003927.08393947.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060127005500.A38764@xorpc.icir.org> <43DA699E.8030803@elischer.org>

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:42:38AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:39:27AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
...
> >>Actually, the ifmedia approach has a cleaner way of dealing.  mii uses
> >>ifmedia.  ifmedia reports all the possible media types to ifconfig,
> >>and then reports its status.  mii has a nearly identical way of
> >>doing this for devices with mii busses, or pseudo mii busses.
> >>
> >>ed should likely be fully converted to using ifmedia, but I'm not sure
> >>I want to risk breaking ISA cards that I don't have access to to make
> >>it so.  I just don't have the time...
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >to tell the truth, -current is so heavyweight for obsolete
> >hardware that i wonder what is the point of trying to support
> >old hardware that nobody has anymore, or on which nobody
> >would upgrade the OS from 4.x to 7.x
> >  
> >
> 
> ehem.. I have several ed pc-cards on -current machines.. That particular 
> design may be
> old but it's really cheap and still used a LOT in cheap/small stuff.
> especially since it is usable at 100Mb transparently with some cards.

a bit of context, Julian, please...
Warner was worried about breaking support for
'ISA cards that I don't have access to';
if you, Julian, have such card for testing, then there is
not a problem of testing and fixing trivial bugs.

	cheers
	luigi



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