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Date:      Wed, 12 May 1999 23:56:11 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: desktop, was linus on BSD
Message-ID:  <373A697B.B7A5D7DC@softweyr.com>
References:  <199905121723.KAA03623@usr08.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> 
> > > A workstation with IDE hardware?
> > >
> > > Oh, you mean a PC...
> >
> > Or a Darwin.  No, not the Apple stuff, the Sun stuff.
> >
> > Are you (un)confused now?
> 
> Oh, you don't mean a *work*station, you mean a *play*station...
> if you were doing work, you'd need to do I/O.
> 
> Or do you have some other reason for doing all of your I/O
> serially, such that if you run more than one process (e.g.
> not just MS Word), all of your other processes suffer?
> 
> IDE supports tagged command queueing, but IDE controllers and
> drives don't.
> 
> IDE isn't just a one user toy -- it's a one user, one process, one
> I/O at a time toy.

Let's review:

Sun E250, 1x 300 Mhz UltraSPARC, a boatload of big, fast UWSCSI-3 drives.
cd ~/builder/engr/src; make all: 44 minutes

Sun Ultra5, 1x 333 Mhz UltraSPARC, one 4.3 GB Ultra-IDE drive.
cd ~/builder/engr/src; make all: 49 minutes

Doing that "make all," and the associated little makes, is why my 
workstation exists.  What's even better is that we can tie them all
into a "cluster" using pmake; this drops the "make all" time to 
18 minutes at night when the office is quiet.

I can buy a 13GB UltraIDE drive for the Ultra5, or my FreeBSD box, for
$180, at a place close enough I can go there during lunch.  Where's
the win?

-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com


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