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Date:      Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:51:44 +0000
From:      Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
To:        Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/
Message-ID:  <20020305155144.GD17913@genius.tao.org.uk>
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On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:49:57PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:40:17PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote:
>=20
> > > Cracker is nothing, just a stupid term made up by journalists and
> > > clueless people like Suckomu Shimomura. ;-P
> >=20
> > A cracker is someone who breaks software security (usually on games).
>=20
> Yeah, that's right. But in the unix world it doesn't really make sense.
> Yes, Fravia's pages contain one or two essays where some unix is
> involved (I remember FlexLM reverse engineering on HP-UX) but other than
> that and a very minimal Linux cracking activity, I haven't seen many
> cracking on unix systems.

Are Fravia's pages still around?  I read them a few years ago, and very
good they were too.
=20
> As someone pointed out, in this particular case (attacking a freebsd.org
> box), should be defined as the action of a script kiddiot. Calling
> him/her a hacker would be offensive to real hackers :-)=20

:) Although if they were a 'her', I'd gladly call her a hacker (at least
for a night).

Joe

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