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Date:      Sun, 8 Jul 2012 13:10:18 -0400
From:      Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
Message-ID:  <20120708171018.GA81070@DataIX.net>
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On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 07/08/2012 01:03, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> >=20
> > On 8. Jul 2012, at 02:44 , Warner Losh wrote:
> >=20
> >>
> >> On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> >>> <<On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:17:53 -0700, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>=
 said:
> >>>
> >>>> BIND in the base today comes with a full-featured local resolver
> >>>> configuration, which I'm confident that Dag-Erling can do for unbound
> >>>> (and which I would be glad to assist with if needed). Other than tha=
t,
> >>>> what integration are you concerned about?
> >>>
> >>> The utilities (specifically host(1) and dig(1)) are the only
> >>> user-visible interfaces I care about.  I don't see any need for there
> >>> to be an authoritative name server in the base system.  So long as the
> >>> resolver works properly and does DNSsec validation....
> >>
> >> The only reason I want it in the base system is that ports don't cross=
 build very well, but the base system does.  That's a weak +1 for keeping s=
omething in the base system, but I'll be the first to admit it is a second =
or third tier argument at best.
> >=20
> > The real reason you want exactly these tools in base is that otherwise =
you
> > end up rewriting tiny parts of freebsd-update etc that actually depend =
on
> > host, etc. to query SRV for SRV records.
>=20
> That's an implementation issue, and is easily handled with drill, or the
> host-like program we all agree is a really-nice-to-have.
>=20

=46rom first impression it seems that drill(1) has a syntax that leaves
something to be desired like the eased use of host or dig. Specifically
and not trying to make this thread about such but "+trace +short" styles
just simply do not exist.

I suppose a wrapper could be written to parse thoise syntaxes into there
correct meaning dig.sh host.sh but thatd be one hell of a compatability
problem rather than just having bind-tools in base.

--=20

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