Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:09:38 -0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> Cc: alan bryan <alanbryan1234@yahoo.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? Message-ID: <43C5BA62.3010301@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <43C5B6F0.1050004@samsco.org> References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C57A7A.3080802@elischer.org> <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> <43C5B4B2.9000707@elischer.org> <43C5B6F0.1050004@samsco.org>
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Scott Long wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > >> David Leimbach wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 1/11/06, *Julian Elischer* <julian@elischer.org >>> <mailto:julian@elischer.org>> wrote: >>> >>> alan bryan wrote: >>> >>> >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather >>> >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up. I'm >>> >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and >>> >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or >>> >not. Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or >>> >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight >>> >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer >>> >until people get their hands on the hardware but I >>> >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities. >>> > >>> > >>> well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot >>> FreeBSD. >>> It would probabty require a different bootloader binary. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD. >> >> >> >> >> If they were bastards they could refuse to load anything that wasn't >> in some format or didn't >> decrypt with some public key. I doubt they wouod do that but since >> they control the >> horizontal and the vertical they COULD do it. >> >> It is possible that the boot loader sequence may require a stage that >> is in some format >> supported by the apple firmware, depending on how wired down they >> have made it. >> > > Geez, please take off the tinfoil hat. This has been an FAQ since about > 3 seconds after the word 'Intel' escaped Jobs' lips in June. Apple has > quite clearly stated that they will not do anything to lock down the > hardware from other OS's, just that they won't go out of their way to > support anything other than OSX. > > So, repeat after me: "APPLE IS NOT KILLING KITTENS AND CALLING YOUR > MOTHER DIRTY NAMES". A gold star goes to the first person who boots > FreeBSD on an Intel iMac. What I thought I said: "They COULD have done XYZ bad things (see above) but in all probability the worst thing we'd have to do is have a boot loader component (possibly boot0) that conforms to some file format, and that should be relatively simple" > > Scott
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