Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:59:44 -0800 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <4F15C520.6090200@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4F15B1AA.4020400@my.gd> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <op.v78i3yxi34t2sn@tech304> <4F15B1AA.4020400@my.gd>
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On 1/17/12 9:36 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 1/17/12 4:39 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> Why is everyone so afraid of running -STABLE? Plenty of stuff gets >> MFC'd. Yeah, I agree -- running -RELEASE is difficult. Hell, it's >> frustrating to us that VMWare only supports -RELEASE and it took until >> ESX 5 to officially support 8.2! >> >> More releases / snapshots of -STABLE helps people on physical servers, >> but anyone who runs VMs on Xen or VMWare won't get any support for those >> versions because they didn't go through the QA process yet. FreeBSD is >> increasingly becoming a third world citizen thanks to virtualization >> efforts being focused on Linux, so I feel that more frequent releases >> won't help as many people as you think. >> > Running FBSD in a *production* environment means you want something > stable and tested. > > -STABLE does not fulfill the requirements I'm afraid. > > We've had to downgrade some boxes from 8.2-STABLE to -RELEASE here. then you went the wrong way and your process is flawed. having run -stable on production systems, the way to do it is: * follow -stable.. * pick a time that IN RETROSPECT (from 1 month later) looks as though it was good. * take a snapshot from that time and test it. * if it has problems MOVE FORWARD (not back) to the next candidate snapshot time. * repeat until you have one that works for you > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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